I live in India. The rest of the country ratio is similar here. We have hit and run cases too, very high profile ones. Not the worst ones come back to ensure they've killed a 3 yr old!
the highest murder rate in US is 15.8 Louisiana while the highest in India is 6.5 (Patna). Most places in India have half or lesser murder rates compared to the average in US. India in general is just a much safer country, not in the same league as China, Japan but far safer than US. Growing up in Bangalore, I walked the streets regularly at 2AM when I was a teen, something that I’m scared to do as a full grown adult in SF
> The National Crime Records Bureau, India’s official source of crime data, is systematically undercounting virtually every crime in India on account of a statistical shortcoming, The Hindu has learnt.
> For every dowry death reported, there are dozens that go unreported. Of the 8,391 reported cases in 2010, although 93.2 per cent were charge-sheeted, the conviction rate was a miserable 33.6 per cent. The murderers and their families get away with it. What’s worse, they go scot free and bring back another bride.
I'd be interested in seeing murder rates for rural versus city areas. I know the tribal areas of Pakistan set up their own alternative courts, and wouldn't be surprised if similar things happened in rural India.
The homicide rate is not too low. For example, my state Kerala which has the highest recorded crime rate (read mostly petty) in India, has a homicide rate of 1.09 - Much less than Iceland even with 100x population.
I wonder how the long tail of murders per “neighborhood” looks in those other countries. It’s well-known that in America the vast majority of murders happen in tiny areas. And if one were to look at only the predominant race in America, the murder rate would match the best of the examples you just listed (3.0, the same as racially-homogeneous India).
That’s not to say that minority murder means less in any way, but on the contrary to question whether America records it to an extent other countries might not. I do not know if this is the case or not, and I don’t know how one might be able to tell. But I’ve personally been in slums of third world countries that the police would flat out refuse to answer calls to, and I can’t imagine anyone there was taking the time to report each death to the United Nations when even their own local police couldn’t give enough of a shit (/were too scared) to show up.
The data on the wikipedia page raises a question. It shows that the number of rapes per 100 000 is about 1/4th that of the US.
Now I assume a lot of that is due to unreporting, but is rape really that much more common in India? Anecdotal evidence suggest it is.
It reminds me of crime in Canada vs. the US. The US has almost 10x the population, so if you think about something like school shootings (of which there have been quite a few in Canada), you'd expect 10x of them in the US.
A car attack killed 6 and wounded 30 in Melbourne in January of this year.
Granted, attacks are much rarer in Australia. Part of this is attributable to the population difference: all things proportional, you'd expect 13 attacks in the US for 1 in Australia if the rate is the same between the two countries.
Well there's also the whole "school shooting epidemic" thing. But sure, the 3 billion people in those three countries are all fairly comparable.
China:1.4 B
India:1.35 B
US:0.3 B
Some states in the US have homicide rates below 1.3 / 100,000 or ~3-4 for a city of that size. And that includes both vehicular manslaughter cases and child neglect cases so your example would be a rather bad year compared to many city's in the US.
You seem to be claiming Kerala as the norm rather than an outlier. You're certainly welcome to compare crime rates between the two and/or suggest explanations/compare living conditions, but saying that very low crime rate is the norm is simply false [1]
No - I said Kerala has a high crime rate - but a relatively low homicide rate. Kerala is definitely an outlier in many respects in India. What I am trying to hint is it is not exceptional to have low homicide rates - there are several parts of the world where it is the norm. It may be better to consider high homicide rates in some developed, high HDI regions as an anomaly and analyze the reasons.
The parent post is only about "Crimes against women". Your link is about general crimes, oh great skeptic.
I have to merge all my answers here because HN (suprise ! suprise!) prevent answering questions, because apparently reality is does not fit the propaganda you've all been fed.
Have happy life in your ignorance.
@DanBC:
I don't give a shit. HN like is filled with bigots (if comments here are any proof). India does have crime statistics online: http://ncrb.gov.in/ .
Now who's the one making up things ?
@rimantas:
More atrocity literature!
To answer your question. Yes (well atleast nearly). It remains better than Sweden at any rate.
There really hasn't been much by way of statistics for the former, only conjecture by media outlets which are inherently biased.
Assuming less adversarial reporting rates (and not adding the abortion counts in the US) still makes it comparable to that in the US.
If you do add the abortion counts (for I'm sure you're as much pro-life as you are anti-India) the comparison will tilt more towards India again.
Happy dear (and a clever one too!) Hinduphobe ? Do you want to send them to the gas chamber and get this farce over with ?
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