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lmm · 2015-10-05 11:48:41+00:00

People should be accountable for their actions, not for expressing an opinion.

stdbrouw | karma 4698 | avg karma 3.8 · | 2021-01-07 09:23:54+00:00

How about holding people accountable for what people do?

morelisp | karma 3202 | avg karma 0.97 · | 2022-06-24 01:25:57

There's a difference between being responsible and being accountable. Everyone should be responsible.

Guthur | karma 1606 | avg karma 1.58 · | 2021-02-10 09:14:13

I never once implied they shouldn't be accountable, to be honest I don't think you read my post at all.

JustSomeNobody | karma 7775 | avg karma 1.58 · | 2017-05-24 15:19:39+00:00

Nothing wrong with being held accountable for your actions. The means by which you're held accountable should not be abusive, however.

Yoric | karma 6014 | avg karma 2.98 · | 2022-03-01 04:00:55

Are you asking me? Pretty sure I didn't advocate for holding anybody accountable.

edit Clarified.

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ptah | karma 1154 | avg karma 1.17 · | 2019-11-01 09:12:03

humans can be held accountable for their decisions though

arcticbull | karma 30340 | avg karma 3.27 · | 2021-03-14 03:03:55+00:00

They’re accountable to people who don’t care about your issue, that’s not a lack of accountability. Accountability doesn’t always mean you agree with the direction or outcome.

actionfromafar | karma 6262 | avg karma 1.82 · | 2023-04-28 12:54:40

An organization can not be accountable, unless a human is accountable.

richardw | karma 3457 | avg karma 2.33 · | 2016-09-06 05:04:35

Agreed. Everyone can only be held accountable for their own actions. So let those who can influence demand do so, and let those who can control supply do so.

freeone3000 | karma 6828 | avg karma 2.71 · | 2023-04-12 08:25:05

People must be held accountable for their actions; if it cannot be through self-governance, their reputation must meet needs.

edanm | karma 10065 | avg karma 2.81 · | 2024-05-21 06:11:42

It's not about being held accountable at all - it's about who is holding them accountable.

The belief is that as sovereign nations, they can hold their own people accountable, and no one else should have the right to hold them accountable instead.

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voakbasda | karma 3325 | avg karma 2.81 · | 2022-03-30 00:49:41

It’s not that people don’t want to hold them accountable, but rather there is no reliable means to do so without taking unreasonable personal risks.

snarfy | karma 6644 | avg karma 3.15 · | 2021-07-24 14:57:30

Accountability is not punishment. It's a thirst for justice. With nobody accountable there is no justice.

Throw73849 | karma -8 | avg karma -0.32 · | 2023-05-14 09:30:26

I will take blame over accountability. Being accountable is a lot of work, that is rarely rewarded. And blame usually does not have any real consequences.

joshxyz | karma 1443 | avg karma 0.91 · | 2024-04-14 01:39:32

i like this take. people like being heard, but people don't like putting in the time to really weigh on things, let alone being accountable.

throwaway894345 | karma 15075 | avg karma 2.31 · | 2020-05-29 21:44:15

I generally agree with the above, but you're framing this as a disagreement which makes me think you misunderstood the context of the thread.

My position is that there is some accountability but it's not sufficient for any reasonable standard of justice.

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rock_hard | karma 1125 | avg karma 2.24 · | 2019-03-15 16:02:29

Same could be said about Facebook...yet a lot of people here seem to believe they should be held accountable

eridius | karma 15723 | avg karma 2.78 · | 2019-03-30 04:34:44+00:00

Holding people accountable for personal actions taken 10+ years ago is one thing. Holding them accountable for public statements made on behalf of a hugely influential company is different altogether.

ticviking | karma 1415 | avg karma 2.23 · | 2023-04-01 20:48:18

No one is actually accountable for it. Those are slightly different things