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Rubber hose.

Rubber hose...

My intuition makes me agree that it does address the rubber-hose scenario. Could you elaborate on why you think it doesn’t?

What does that have to do with a rubber hose?

What does ‘rubber hose’ mean here?

Rubber hoses used to be a pretty good deterrent.

Rubber hoses don't scale.

A rubber hose comes to mind.

The rubber hose would fail!

I've never used a hose that wasn't rubberised - that's in the UK and a few other western European countries. What material are the hoses you use made of (and in what country)?

Interesting. Perhaps I should clarify that I meant the hoses have a rubberised sheath; not that the hose was necessarily just rubber. I'm not aware that hoses do stretch particularly.

I imagine this is mainly a difference in locale.


That's just rubber hose with a warning and paperwork.

And those hoses should be metal-braided versions, preventing burst.

Followed promptly by the rubber hose, because technical tricks are not a solution to jack-booted thugs.

It's just rubber hose with extra steps!

Which is especially fun if Seydor weren't coerced and does not truly help solve the rubber hose factor... Once rubber hose is in play this only means more suffering

Glad they chose 'pipe' over 'hose'.

Or M hoses.

Rubberhose and funnel. Fuck the system.
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