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Insignificant compared to openly murdering heads of states of Iraq, Libya and causing deaths of hundreds and thousands of people across middle east.


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The US has killed in excess of a million people in the Middle East. Around 650 000 people died as a result of the Iraq War, around 50 000 in Afghanistan, around 400 000 in Syria and around 20 000 in Lybia.

Of course, neither were purely by the US but rather by a Coalition, but none of them would have happened if it wasn't for the US.

I also include deaths from destruction of infrastructure and subsequent power vacuums, as is customary for crimes against humanity.


Doesn't change the fact that America spent the last 20 years on a mass-murder spree in the Middle East.

I disagree, at a certain point it does.

Imagine the roles were reversed and some jerks from the US went and killed 3000 middle easterners. As a response they invade america and over the course of 10 years kill nearly 20,000% as many people as died in that original attack. Still call the death toll from the original jerks to the middle easterners significant?


oh yeah, 10s of millions murdered sooo superficial

Killing a cumulative 100,000,000 hardly constitutes "minor crimes".

Mostly innocents? That's not supported by the numbers I was looking at.

Could you point me to these numbers? It looked to me like killing a whole slew of extremists for extremely minimal collateral damage.


You're missing the point. The point is thousands of people get killed by world powers and nobody cares.

Yep, the us is definitely killing foreigners, and its own people for that matter, but the direct impact on citizens' everyday life is pretty minimal. No war has been declared, and apart from a distortion to the budget and impact on GDP it's essentially invisible.

I bet you have no clue how many innocent human beings the American government and its allies have massacred in the last 10 years.

Hint: it doesn't benefit you one bit.


And the US has killed tens of thousands of civilians in the middle east.

They're terrorists too.


That's because nothing of consequence happened at this time. Had the actions resulted in deaths of a few hundred or a few thousand Americans the response would most likely be very different.

So you can name a bigger attack on the US that has happened in the last 20 years?

Far fewer lives were lost, but the impact and implications of this are on par.


Just because no number of people were killed at present doesn't mean it's not a serious offense.

Last time I checked, ISIS has killed a lot of people. You do those slain a disservice by not even acknowledging this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/25/world/map-isi...


To be fair the US et al has killed many innocent civilians in the Middle East.

It's not intentional but I doubt ISIS sympathisers see the distinction.


Killing populations en masse has little to do with 'destroying the enemy's capability to attack you'.

2 million murdered in Darfur and South Sudan - nobody cares.

1 Hamas terrorist killed - CNN breaking news.

Make your own conclusions.


The body counts are not even comparable. In Iraq, ALONE, the U.S. is estimated to have killed 1M+ civilians, between the sanctions it pushed before the 2003 war and the war itself.

Here is Madeline Albright saying killing 500k+ kids in Iraq via sanctions was "worth the price" (despite the fact that those sanctions achieved nothing in terms of real political goals):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

Edit: but you can flag my comments if that makes you feel better


none of which killed a soul.

On the other hand CIA handled instigators killed far in excess of 45,000 people during the 'cold' war.

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