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I don't see how you're ignoring all the countries that have had economies collapse. It's not impossible.


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Countries and their economies collapsing now and then are not that rare.

That's only true for countries with small economies. If the US, China, Japan or the Eurozone collapsed, that would plunge the whole world into a depression.

Well a lot of those countries don't have money. Lebanon is pretty much bankrupt for example. Iran is close to that. Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Sudan, many many super fragile countries. It's not that the problem isn't technically solvable, it is, but many of these countries are on the verge of social and economic collapse.

They also haven't shut down their economies, which was the point I was making. The actions you describe are not mutually exclusive to a more nuanced approach to reduced economic activity. That is, something other than economic suicide.

Economies do not usually collapse to that extent. You are implying that somehow Egypt will turn into Somalia-style failed state (evrn Venezuela is able to guard its borders), which will almost certainly not happen.

Economy collapses are more like a reality check when a country has to cease the unhealthy practices it was engaged in, and eat a humble pie. They are not like statehood collapse.


I wasn't aware their economy had crashed. Could you provide a source?

You've never been through a country scale crisis.

You can safely ignore any story that includes “collapse” in its title when referring to a G-20 country. They’re all just clickbait.

But at this point hasn't the previously great economy been destroyed?

> Of course it's easy to say "It's their own fault, let them stew in their misery", but that doesn't enhance stability.

Neither does having a country have their economy fail every few years.


I don't think you know how economics works.

If no one would spend money, the related countries would go bust within a year.


What accounts for a 40% collapse? That's an enormous shortfall for such a large economy.

The economy wouldn't crater if these massive institutions failed? I find that hard to believe.

I mean economic crashes rarely cause a country to "die", but it will have a major setback in its economy and the individual people will suffer, if they aren't already. I mean I know lots of people are suffering in the west as well, despite there being plenty of jobs available and the economy being very good.

That’s a terrible default. That will make a country collapse. I guess you don’t have to look around too hard then to see that coming into fruition.

There are countries right now failing after seizing wealth from their citizens

All of those countries failed for different reasons and never solely because of "seizing wealth from their citizens", although that was always a component.


Yeah, but not any economy, to be a nightmare requires a nightmarish economy.

I wish but I think they are well enough entrenched so that only a major economic collapse could threaten their rule.

You seem to be dealing in absurd hypotheticals here. In most countries in the world, having your nation state fail on you is a very real risk. It doesn't fail all at once, so it's something you can plan for. Having wealth outside of the banking and financial sectors that's not also in physical form is something that's very valuable for this purpose.
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