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You are neglecting the class of users that is the one of the oldest. The people that use it for illegal means. Until something comes out that approaches the financial stability of bitcoin (yeah bitcoin isn't great, but other cryptocurrencies are worse) and is harder to trace than bitcoin, bitcoin will be what is used for illegal online transactions.


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Yikes. Bitcoin: the best for illegal transactions. That's not a positive attribute.

In other words: Bitcoin is mostly good for illegal transactions.

That is why Bitcoin is the worst currency for illegal acts. It is transparent and traceable

Too late, I'm afraid. Who, today, uses Bitcoin, except for criminals and speculants?

Using Bitcoin for illegal transactions is simply prosecution futures. Governments and LEOs have and continue to develop automatic de-anonymization tooling and let's face it 2-3tps, it doesn't have to be fast lol. You're basically just scribbling down all your crimes under a pseudonym and mailing it to the FBI, CIA and PRC with a note saying 'bet you can't guess who I am.' I bet you they can, guy.

> Cryptocurrencies have also become useful asset stores for the wealthy living in authoritarian countries.

Again certainly not BTC. Any one of those stories over the last few months of people using Bitcoin as a currency of last resort are so sad because they all got rekt. Had they bought USDC or a hypothetical future CBDC or e-cash, they would be so much better off.

There's that story about the Ukrainian refugee who put his last $2000 worth into BTC when he fled the Russians. That's worth like $900 now.


Yep, you're right, people are definitely only using cryptocurrency for illegal transactions.

Bitcoin does seem to be the best payment technology for online illegal transactions. Albeit, one could argue those shouldn't be 'real' in the first place.

The elephant in the room here is that Bitcoin is dodgy.

It's proponents claim that it has all sorts of uses, but the only thing people actually use it for is illegal activity.

Since the Ross Ulbricht trial, it has become obvious that even using it for illegal activity is a bad idea, as it's easily traceable.


Do people even use Bitcoin for criminal payments nowadays? Aren't there better options that do preserve privacy of transactions?

Bitcoin's advantage is worked online for people who are banned from normal online payment mechanisms.

There are other privacy oriented coins that may do better than bitcoin for avoiding tracing (monero?) but the main reason criminals used it is it worked and nobody really cared about drugs, etc.


The student arguing that is has the potential for that doesn't contradict the fact that Bitcoin is not mainly used for illegal activities currently. Even if you assume buying weed on dark markets was a major driver of adoption in the early days (having followed the space early on I find that doubtful because the people who were in Bitcoin were mainly interested in the technology), when you look at it currently the vast majority of the funds isn't even moved much. It sits in cold storage as digital gold. It's mainly an investment these days. Even Blackrock is coming out with an ETF now, they just announced it a few days ago.

As for criminals, they have learned that authorities understand blockchains a lot better than they used to, and that there are professional firms tracking crypto movements. It's all public after all. Unless they're in a jurisdiction where they're safe from prosecution because they have state backing, it's not really used illegally much any more. So these cases are more state terrorism, where countries like Russia or North Korea intentionally hurt businesses in enemy states, or at least turn a blind eye in the latter case. In those cases it's ultimately the internet that enables it.


Well said.

I also think criminals will avoid it like the plague. Bitcoin could conceivably tell law enforcement everywhere you received money from and everywhere you spent it. I realize it is one long number transacting with another long number, but law enforcement have computers too, and they have time on their side. Using bitcoins could be like leaving DNA on the scene of the crime - probably not a good idea if you want to get away with whatever you are doing.


Well your logic is obviously flawed, because people do use bitcoins for transactions and they have changed by hundreds of percentage points. "No one" is patently false.

Besides, illicit transactions are still transactions.

And.. you are just plain wrong. Bitcoin is also useful for buying many completely legal things. Including a VPN that can't be linked to your identity. (Illicit you say? What about a journalist in a repressive regime).


The majority of illegal actors would still use Bitcoin in that scenario. The long term value of Bitcoin is irrelevant to them, Bitcoin just needs to keep a rough short term value and not be forgeable to be usable for illegal purposes.

Bitcoin: it's the worst because criminals use it to evade authorities.

Bitcoin: it's the worst because it's transactions are traceable.


Then you should be obfuscating the origin of your earned bitcoin just like the criminals

Or is the reality that criminal and non-criminals funds are already being obfuscated regularly because bitcoin is 12 years old and people already thought of this problem a decade ago


Anyone who says Bitcoin is used for illegal purposes should be ignored. They obviously are newbies learning about Bitcoin for the first time.

I totally agree that Bitcoin should not be primarily identified with criminal activity.

However, I think it's very easy to understand where it started and why it generally isn't in bad faith. Digital currencies (of which Bitcoin is the largest and most well known) make certain types of crimes easier (drugs by mail, ransomware). Those crimes (as they are understood) always involve a digital currency so they feel new (even if they aren't in many ways). Most people don't pay attention to digital currencies so it's not surprising that they associate them with new behavior that doesn't seem possible without them.

I also suspect that, if you were to break down digital currency activity, that most exchanges of goods and services (as opposed to investments) do choose to use a digital currency because it evades some regulatory processes or laws. With the transaction cost of Bitcoin at over $4[1] (down from over $50 recently), I really doubt that people are using it for many exchanges of goods or services where its digital qualities don't enable the transaction in some way.

[1] https://ycharts.com/indicators/bitcoin_average_transaction_f...

Edit: added a clarification about ransomware and drugs-by-mail. Ransomware and "darkweb markets" are based on older practices that, to an extent, are distinct because of digital currency. Corporate espionage and ransom demands are quite old, but we call generally call it "ransomware" when the extortion is based on holding digital assets and paying digitally as well.


I have never understood the appeal of BitCoin as a means of purchasing or selling illegal materials. The entire transaction history is literally encoded in a public ledger!

All Law Enforcement has ever needed to do is trace back the transactions - something that's almost impossible with conventional currencies. Heck the equitable principle of 'Tracing' exists in Law because it's normally impossible to do that once monies have intermingled.

The sheer practicality of it is demonstrated in the fact that it's only worthwhile or practicable for Law Enforcement to investigate _large-scale_ money-laundering operations. Yet with Bitcoin you can essentially read back the exact history of every single satoshi.

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