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You've managed to mix in victim blaming, middle class guilt, and tolerance of crime into a wonderful stew.

Here's a tip; if someone is engaging in crime, they're a criminal. In this case it sounds like at least assault. This isn't a downtrodden Okie with his family in a hooptie trying to make ends meet until the Depression is over, it's a nutjob trying to attack someone with a lethal weapon.



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Your argument sounds like it is not something wrong to commit crime in a crime-ridden neighborhood, and it is the victim's fault since that person didn't read news or does their due diligence.

Interesting :)


If a person is committing crimes, they're a criminal.

If it's a crime, who's the criminal?

At the risk of being glib, your headache and frustrations seem trivial in the context of the crime you're mentioning.

Crime != violent crime.

ah, no. that's a working-class crime.

What's the crime here?

What’s the crime? This is a really low brow drive by comment from an anonymous user.

You are relativating great crimes. You are embracing and supporting euphemistic language. At the level of this crime it's nuances of 'killings'.

You are describing a criminal situation.

It's the equivalent of a hit and run. The crime is the run part.

People who don't get that distinction might benefit by considering crimes such as Attempted Robbery and Attempted Murder. Indeed, attempting to commit a crime is pretty much always a crime in and of itself.

Imagine if would-be kidnapper got off the hook just because the intended victim ran fast enough to get away. Or a wannabe bomber who fudged the recipe.


'where those wronged by the infraction are themselves in the wrong' - it is certainly possible for this to be a crime, consider killing a burglar.

I wasn't comparing the crime, I was comparing the excuse. It's the equivilent of punching someone while holding a sign "no pain intended". Theft no longer comes into it, happy now?

Crime is crime.

> Going into public and throwing filth at people, accosting them, and generally endangering the safety of other citizens is implicitly a crime

It's not just implicit -- assault is explicitly a crime, everywhere.


You seem to be assuming that each incident of violent crime is done by a different person.

Crime is a combination of intentions, actions and results. Just because no-one is harmed doesn't mean there's no crime. If I try and murder someone and fail (perhaps I'm a poor shot?) then I'm hardly an innocent.

I'd recommend the webcomic 'The illustrated guide to law' to everyone, especially many of the commentators on here. It is disturbing to read some of these posts.

http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=173


Are you using crime as a euphemism for homelessness?
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