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> Theranos does stand for well thought-out and useful therapy and diagnosis and does not represent the harms suggested by another similar Greek word, thanatos (death).

This is gold. Yesterday Theranos just voided its two years of testing results by its Edison.



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>What?

Agreed. See Theranos.


That's what Theranos said

Not saying you're right it wrong, bit Theranos seems like a counter example to what you are arguing.

Funny, just saw this in the paper yesterday. I wonder how it differs from Theranos. http://szdaily.sznews.com/html/2016-04/18/content_3505489.ht...


>If you can't see the difference

And Theranos was testing people's blood. Just not with the technology they claimed to have.


I think Theranos' case is more like: If you really really hope something will work, but you know it does not work now, is it lying to say "it works"?

Yes, it is.


Not sure what you mean.

Their product is scientific. It's not just a health app or some nutriment recommendation which can be claimed successful without any scientific claims to back it.

Theranos has a very a scientific product with a binary output and so it's claims will stand up to that (i.e. being approved by passing a number of tests)

My lesson was for those who wanted to change the world via healthcare, not those who wanted to get rich.


This is a new company, why should these be the doomsday callings?

Theranos is NOT a new company. They've been around for more than a decade.

This isn't the latest and greatest dating app. This is medical tests that have a very real impact on the treatment provided to patients.


> The difference between Theranos and OpenAI is the later has created a product which, while imperfect, does something.

I didn’t think it was a fair comparison at first either, but based on this standard it actually might be. Theranos absolutely made something. It had a device that took blood and gave back results. The fraud was that the results were “imperfect”.


That wasn’t the problem with Theranos, the problem is Theranos didn’t have a product.

Blood tests are well studied technology but Theranos was a scam.

It’s never “ignorant” to think critically.


"hey guys, we're a successful company with a real product" - theranos

So it's comparable to Theranos in more ways than one.

Theranos also released 'something'...

I'm sceptical generally of Theranos, but none of this feels in the least bit like a smoking gun. Wouldn't you expect feedback like that for a truly revolutionary product? There's no claim of fraud, there's no claim their technology doesn't work, just complaints about technicalities. Am I wrong?

Theranos was certified by the CMS (the federal regulator -- not the FDA -- responsible for clinical labs).

This is Theranos 2.0.

A critical opinion piece on Theranos from the journal Clinical Chemistry and Laboratory Medicine:

http://www.degruyter.com/view/j/cclm.2015.53.issue-7/cclm-20...

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