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> But you can't, can you?

Why not? It works for glucagon (which is even more complicated, since it has to be reconstituted from a powder).

http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/gifs/products/GlucaGenA1...



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> People are advised not to try this without medical advice.

This is right after they talk about using it as a treatment for diabetes. If you're already diabetic, doing this as a treatment could have some risks.


> Team developing oral insulin tablet sees breakthrough results in rats

Team fixing the effect instead of the cause. Eat more sugar.


>If you develop type-2 diabetes, you may be able to cure it by not eating any sugar for a few weeks.

Developing type-2 diabetes will be a process that happens over several decades. So which few weeks is it that I need to stop eating sugar? I need to know because I was going to make cookies.

>there is never a good reason to give yourself type-2 diabetes

I've taken medication that progressively leads to type 2 diabetes for about 17 years. You don't think I have a good reason? Or you just never imagined one?

>Probably few Cubans have type-2 diabetes. It is a 1st-world problem; another name is Processed Food disease.

Being able to get medication that causes type 2 diabetes as a side effect might be a first world thing too. I would be concerned about that.

>Type 1 diabetes is much bigger trouble: you need to inject insulin

People inject insulin for type 2 diabetes; I'm not sure what you are referring to.


> One of my relatives tried that and actually found out that her blood glucose levels had actually worsened

That does not seem surprising to me. Honey has a worse glucose/fructose ratio than table sugar.


>I'm a Type 1 diabetic

Me too.

>So please don't talk like you understand diabetic science

Please don't be a condescending prat when what I said is 100% accurate.

Diabetics are allowed to eat sugar, and research indicates that the source of carbs really doesn't matter: http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat...

Commonly used and recommended sources of sugar to treat hypoglycemia in diabetics include fruit, soda, juice, candy, sugar, honey and skim milk: http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-c...


> Is there any reason to think absorbing lots of simple glucose or sucrose through your stomach lining is much better than than absorbing lots of fructose?

A better question is if there's any reason not to. You should never blindly assume that biological research on one chemical translates to another. Seemingly small structural differences often (but don't always!) result in wildly different chemical properties. Additionally, biological pathways are incredibly (almost unimaginably) complex.


> Glucose is a problem, but there's no reason they couldn't use sugar substitutes, of which there are many (though unfortunately some of the best, like tagatose, are still pretty expensive).

Have you tried allulose? I can't get it in my country, but it sounds better than others.


> People might be tempted to treat high sugars with insulin/metformin - both of which should be only used on a doctor's prescription, and insulin can outright be (very easily) fatal if you don't know what you're doing.

Insulin, sure. But why do you think Metformin is dangerous?


>>Cereal and toast means a blood sugar crash a few hours later, no thanks!

Well, you could try eating like an adult and see how it works for you.

I have a protein shake every morning. Milk, banana, peanut butter and chocolate protein powder. Works great: it's filling, delicious, healthy and it doesn't cause a sugar crash.


> But acarbose blocks starch metabolism so the bacteria in your tummy metabolize it and make you incredibly and unbearably flatulent.

Sounds like a perfect product for a prank supply store.


> I finally gave up on protein powder. It's impossible to buy just protein powder. They always sneak in one sweetener or another.

There are, in fact, protein powders with no added sweeteners, though most of them still have some sugars (and usually also fat and/or nonsugar carbs) from whatever the source of the protein is (but these can be very low; e.g., Naked Nutrition Naked Pea protein powder has 27g of protein, 2g sugars (0 added sugar), and 0.5g fat per 30g serving.)

But, if you really want protein powder without sugar, you can, in fact, find protein powders without it (e.g., Whey Protein Isolate.)

> I switched to eating a hard boiled egg instead.

At 0.5g sugars for 5.7g protein? Why, exactly, are you avoiding protein powders, again?


> The problem is that unnatural sweeteners produce a similar insulin response as sugar

Has this been demonstrated in humans? I've heard this many times before but have been unable to find any human studies to support it, and the mice studies I've seen often use ludicrously high dosages of the sweeteners.


> I have reactive hypoglycemia

Makes sense that this diet wouldn't work for you - but I think using this argument is sort of like arguing that peanuts are unhealthy because some people are allergic to them.

Fun Fact: You can let your potatoes cool down, and then re-heat them, to significantly lower the glycemic impact.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29629761


> In practice, you can dilute glycemic index using fat and protein in addition to water.

And people really don't understand this. For instance, you basically can't find full-fat yogurt in an American grocery store. Instead there's 20 kinds of non-fat yogurt packed with sugar, which have a much higher glycemic load than yogurt with the same amount of sugar and fat would. But they're all advertised as being healthy because they're non-fat. It's crazy.


>Easiest solution to diabetes: Sugar tax.

Wrong. You should BAN High-fructose corn syrup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

It is way more harmful than natural sugar.

It is not banned yet because:

- It is made from corn, and corn is heavily substituted by US government.

- It is super cheap (high volume of corn available)

- It is not only slightly sweet but also prevents spoilage (that's why they add it to US "bread" !)

- It is good anti-oxidizer

- It is good and cheap liaison


> You can't do both.

Yes you can, because unless you're being obtuse, I'm obviously talking about processed white sugar, not fructose found in real food.


>I'm sure removing 100% of the sugar from the human body will cause it to fail.

Why? You can get the needed carbs in other forms. Is sugar required to be eaten? I don't think so.


> Is there any benefit in using sugar replacements?

Monkfruit which I use supposedly has health benefits, in addition to being calorie light.


> The parent comment mentioned feeling tired after consuming something with a lot of sugar, was that really a mystery prior to using CGM? I doubt it.

They may not have known just how sugary that item was since most people don't bother to calculate the sugar content of everything they consume, but the CGM puts a number on it. That experience could be enough to change the OPs behavior. I agree that most people may not care to make behavioral changes in response to more data, but there are definitely other people who will.

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