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I believe the default setting in brave is to block ads not replace. The user has control over what the browser does.


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The ads are not replaced. More like they are placed within Brave as ads for the application itself. They are defaulted to off.

I can't understand how this seems negative to anyone. There is a certain assumption that any Brave user would have an ad blocker anyway.

What is the alternative?


Except it does. It has the functionality to do BOTH.

The tagline of giving the option to either disable ads or replace ads is to provide a way to enjoy an ad-free experience or to receive only optimized advertisements.

A big reason some users dislike ads isn't because of their entire existance but rather their tendency as of late to be malware-ridden or cause drops in webpage performance. These are the things that cause some users to enable ad-blockers, and Brave is the only way I've heard of that has pushed the envelope of a BETTER ad experience.

From their blog, the first is a great introduction to what Brave is about[1], as well as their response to an attack on their ad-replacement ideology[2].

[1]:https://www.brave.com/how-brave-works-for-you/

[2]:https://www.brave.com/braves-response-to-the-naa-a-better-de...

Also a quote directly from Brave:

    [The user interface] shows the major choices that Brave enables:

    You’re game to try our default mode of operation, for a better ad-supported Web. Just leave the Replace Ads item checked. This is the default mode of operation. We insert ads after blocking without hurting page load speed, and those ads will support the sites you browse. We choose ads based on browser-private user data with no remote tracking — not even by our servers.

    You want to block all ads and trackers, but you’re not sure about our plan to insert better ads with high performance and privacy. You can do this with Brave by checking Block Ads. We want you on board even if you’re just blocking everything.

    You’d like to try Brave without ad blocking or replacing, to get whatever ads and trackers you would experience in other browsers. Check Allow Ads and Tracking. We still protect you with HTTPS Everywhere and other defense by default.

This is all 100% up to the user. Brave simply blocks all ads by default. If the user chooses they can disable ad blocking, including on a per site basis. The user can also, if they choose to do so, display 'cleaned' ads. So you have three tiers of options:

- no ads

- native ads

- cleaned ads

It's totally up to the user to choose what they want.


Brave also blocks ads, and by default.

In Brave a user has to actively go to their settings and turn on ads. It's turned off by default.

Sorry I tried brave once and never looked back but I am wondering... why would I Opt in for ads that I specifically got a browser to remove?

You're 100% incorrect; the ad blocker is on by default. And Brave doesn't show any ads by default. I would like to invite you to actually download the application before making such egregious claims.

Also, consider reading my response to "replacing ads" here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17972072


Brave ads are entirely opt-in. By default it only blocks ads in the same way that Firefox's tracking protection does.

Sure, Brave can block ads, but isn't the browser exploring injecting its own advertisements?

The default setting in Brave is no ads. I actively had to make the change to get the Brave network ones. I really liked that.

(disclaimer: I work for Brave) Just to be clear, no ads are "replaced" when a user opts-in to seeing Brave ads.

Ads and trackers are blocked on all websites by default when you use Brave. IF a user opts-in to viewing Brave ads, THEN they see the ads as notifications that are in Brave's ad inventory and that line up with their interests. This ad matching to users' interests is all done on-device - Brave or advertisers never learn anything about which ad a user saw or what their interests are.

This is core to the privacy model of Brave ads. You can read more here: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Security-and-pri...


Not sure if it is the case, but the original plan was for Brave to replace ads with its own: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/mozil...

No it doesn't, they proposed a 3rd party ad replacement back in 2016 it wasn't popular so it never happened. Please stop repeating this.

Brave blocks ads by default it does not replace them.


Their ad model is what gets discussed every time Brave comes up and it's irrelevant to me - I block all ads myself regardless of the browser.

My point is that if you switch ads off in Brave, you end up with a really good browsing experience, better than Chrome + adblock or Firefox + adblock.


Ads are turned off by default with Brave. If you do not want ads then don't turn them on.

No other reason for Brave? Some don’t want to or care for blocking ads and others don’t do it at the browser level. Does Brave have anything at that point?

I've been using Brave for a few months and I've never seen it substitute it's own ads within any applications or websites.

It instead uses MacOS notifications to show ads which open new browser tabs when you click on them. So it does block ads entirely and then shows it's own ads through a separate channel.


Brave does not replace (meaning, display in-situ) third-party ads. Those are blocked, as you stated, for ethical and security reasons. Brave offers an opt-in feature of the browser called 'Brave Rewards' and 'Brave Ads'. This feature enables users to opt-in to ad-notifications (displayed as native prompts on the device; not shown on the pages you visit). Ads are displayed on every 4th new tab page for participating users (again, no ads on publisher properties). The user consents to these, receives 70% of the revenue for their attention, and sets threshold limitations for how many ads can be displayed in a given period. Brave has never replaced ads on pages; that would be highly unethical.

Blocking ads and serving up new ads are entirely different procedures. It would be entirely technically possible for brave to show brave ads in addition to the existing ads on a page. It is also possible for users to turn off ads entirely (including the brave ads). You can't just lump these two separate steps together, they are independent, and the only part of it that might directly harm the original site/page creators is blocking the original ads. Serving up new ads is no different than what the site creators themselves are already doing for their own work.
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