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> Some brilliant people might also have offensive ideas.

Yup. And some brilliant ideas are offensive.



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> While I don't like the idea of what's offensive being so subjective

What's offensive is what causes offense (that's what the word means.)

Its pretty much the textbook example of something that is completely subjective.


> Some people are so full of themselves that they don't even realize how crass they might come across.

An appropriately ironic comment, given that you just arrogantly belittled someone while also accusing them of narcissism, despite the author plainly writing that they don't claim any of the ideas are good. Next time RTFA before spouting inflammatory nonsense.

"I'd rather give my ideas away than let them go to waste. Who knows if they are even good? The hard part is the execution anyway."


> However, even expressing contempt for intrinsically bad activities can be interpreted as offensive and hostile.

Any action can be interpreted as offensive and hostile. That that is true of an action has no substantial meaning.


> Are you using it to challenge ideas you disagree with?

If someone says something dumb you call them a slur and move on. So yeah, actually.


> trigger warning, ideas may be involved that do not agree with conventional liberal attitudes

> Or is being smart here too emotionally hard for you?

When you write stuff like this, you are insulting people for no good reason.


>Or how about not pissing on other people’s valid ideas because you are offended and want to show off your own contrarian cleverness?

How about not calling other people's criticism "showing off", "contrarian cleverness" and "pissing"?


> if they're offensive to anyone, that's their problem.

Nah, if it's offensive to me and you're trying to convince me of something or sell to me, it's clearly your problem.


> but it would be a stretch

I'd say it's condescending -- and even insulting -- to everyone involved. Ideas shouldn't be censored during a brainstorming session but this is something else


> Although disliking a person for their ideas seems rather petty, don't you agree?

No. I'd argue that ideas are pretty much the most relevant and least petty bases for (liking or) disliking a person.


> (2) deeply offensive to those of us who work in those regimes

You know how sometimes someone who is A Little Too Online gets offended because they think you said a Bad Thing, but it was actually just a typo or a straight misreading, and you try to explain that they’re reacting to something you didn’t even say let alone believe, but because they have already decided you are the Bad Person they interpret that as you “doubling down“ on the bad opinion that they attributed to you, so they get even angrier and even more convinced that you sincerely believe the Bad Thing?

I mean no judgment. We all have such sensitivities. But maybe now you see how easily you can wind up on the wrong side of a public debate by searching for offense where there is in fact none.


> After all, I think offense is entirely in the mind of the beholder.

Especially when the beholder is not himself or herself part of the group.


> I don’t understand people who are acting offended

Once the reasoning boils down to offense I know I am dealing with either intentional hostility or stupidity. Regardless of which of those is the problem I stop wasting energy thinking about it.

For people confused or further offended by this sentiment I suggest reading Principles by Ray Dalio.


>I find it fairly offensive to compare that culture of intellectual dishonesty and boastfulness

Someone will always be offended no matter what you do but the proof is in the pudding. Capital needing to flow to where it is most useful should not make you take personal offense.


> I do not think you should waste a single thought on the easily offended.

Unfortunately, this strategy doesn't work, because these people have the power to have a significant negative impact on your life (get you fired, ruin your reputation etc).


"Being told that people should be shamed for suggesting certain ideas."

More context?

There are certain ideas that we should definitely shame people for suggesting.


>People do tend to take offense when their decisions are being questioned

Yes, your problem if your offended, not the writer other ones, the mail is fair polite and not aggressive, if your offended about fair personal criticism f*ck off and find another job.

Being offended by other/different opinions is what hitler, mao and stalin had in common.


>> The same way, someone would offend you by offending your family. >No, that's not the same way.

Maybe for those offended it might be? It can explain a lot of the anger.


> its intentionally a dig at people

So you're intentionally being insulting, then. And you see that as necessary?


> Being offensive on purpose, even claiming the guise of an experiment

Once again wrong. Not what I meant. By not padding it in an apologetic way, [1] I knew it would get a certain reaction. In my book, nothing wrong with that. I am tired of people always having to apologize when no apology is necessary. Also consider that people of different age groups who were raised differently might see things differently as well and that is ok.

[1] Meaning "I apologize deeply if anyone finds this offensive but.."

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