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It's worth noting the context: You shouldn't make any highly risky bets based on the assumption that market irrationality will correct itself soon.

This article on the other hand, is describing irrational behavior/beliefs by individual investors, that will only ever hurt their investment performance in the long run.



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And also a great example of the saying, "you can lose a lot of money being right at the wrong time."

Or, "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."


"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

That someone failed to make money on the market doesn't necessarily mean they were wrong, it may just mean nobody gave them a pile of money they could afford to risk.


> It is going to happen and it will be great, but do you have enough money to play long enough till it happens?

I think this can also be said as "The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent".


That's fair enough. Prefacing it, as "even if you're right, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" gets that point across better; that there's a dual risk in betting on the downside scenario.

When I hear people saying this, the subtext is usually that there is obviously an actual bubble that will pop someday. Rather than a warning, the statement is more of a joke about how stupid the market is.


Sounds like "Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" would apply here

From my experience (i work in trading) that saying is more often used by people who had their ass handed to them by the market and don't want to admit they were wrong.

The market doesn't just go irrational. There are always reasons, just that sometimes they are non-obvious even in retrospect.


> And additionally that they can sustain this irrationality for some time.

The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.


The more conventional phrasing is, "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

Irrational is contrary to efficient.


That's the point of the article. Markets can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent, the saying goes.

If you think the market is irrational, bet against it. Just claiming to know better but not putting your money where your mouth is and not having skin in the game is a anti pattern that's advisable in this case.

"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent".

Don't bet the farm this early in the cycle.


"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent." The quote itself may be apocryphal, but the meaning is certainly true.

>The Market Can Remain Irrational Longer Than You Can Remain Solvent

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/08/09/remain-solvent/


> Betting that the market reverts to 'rational' pricing in any short time frame is a risky bet, but I'll claim it's much, much more reasonable than assuming that irrationality persists indefinitely.

Rational pricing requires perfect knowledge of future income streams. Unless you have such knowledge, you can't even know what concrete position reflects a bet that the market "reverts" (a misnomer, because it assumes that rationality is a normal state that is only in exceptional circumstances deviated from) to rational pricing.


"The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

Be very careful betting on the market going down. You not only have to be right, you have to be right soon enough.


> Markets can always stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

That's very true. People will read and decide for themselves.


> "Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

That is absolutely correct. However, an equally correct statement is: Whenever you think the market is being irrational, you just don't understand the situation well enough.

So, if you think you can read some blog posts and determine that a freely trading financial market is being irrational...well, it's not the market that is irrational.


> Except the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

This applies solely to stock market speculation, due to a perfect amalgamation of human psychological biases and fallacies.

In consumer economics we use utility value (iirc, it's been far too long since I've opened a textbook). Consumers will definitely drop their JD's if a "no-bullshit," almost as good option comes along, because the utility value gained will be higher than the asset loss.

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