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Regulated telecoms should not be allowed to own media. If this goes through, expect the net neutrality rules to be bent beyond all recognition.


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Nobody benefits without net neutrality except the telecoms. It shouldn't be allowed.

Net neutrality needs to go.

Why should I, as a private ISP company, be forced to pass through racist content, russian disinformation or anti vaxxer propaganda? If YouTube is allowed to block content, why aren't ISP's also allowed? We need to call out companies who tollerate hate speech.

You can always start your own ISP if you fancy those kinds of content.


Grandolf, assuming the FCC doesn't fall down that slope, do you support forced net neutrality?

Remember in the case that censorship does become an issue you can fight that, but there's nothing about net neutrality that gives the FCC that power. I want net neutrality and I'll be quite specific about what the FCC can do about that. Plus if the FCC is already headed towards the censorship department, blocking net neutrality isn't going to stop that.


I wonder how this will fit into the network neutrality controversy.

Network neutrality fail.

Bad move. If this works it will show that preferential treatment is already possible, thus making the existing net neutrality meaningless.

That kind of regulatory uncertainty is bad for the industry. Congress really needs to act.

... hahaha ... congress ... act ... hahahahaha ...

In all seriousness though: I think it's a mistake to focus on the FCC even now. That's obviously a lost cause. Focus on Congress and the next election cycle. Network neutrality needs to be law.


The FCC shouldn't attempt to enforce net neutrality.

If Google and Netflix want to use all of the internet and still take all of your money, why shouldn't they pay for it? Under net neutrality they're not allowed to.

this fcc comment is so uninformed. getting rid of net neutrality will make service way better because you will be able to pay for a line with prioritized access for video conferencing and remote presence. net neutrality is what makes it impossible for individuals with a public isp connection to get the same quality as corporations with their own private networks.

I am a consumer that pays Netflix. Where is that in your diagram?

If Netflix wants to subsidize my Verizon bill I am okay with that. Yeah yeah I know...how will startup X have a chance to compete with Netflix then? Guess what nobody can. And even by some miracle if they get disrupted the benefits again will keep accruing to a handful of people. So what the point of the story?

Netflix, Youtube, Facebook, Google, Apple and Amazon are unregulated monopolies that I worry about much more than Comcast and Verizon. The EFF needs to bring that onto the table every time they talk about Net Neutrality.


Would you extend the same argument to net neutrality?

I.e., are the telcos right to be against it?


I hope most net neutrality proponents would not say that it implies that all providers must allow all traffic through their network, regardless of whether it is malicious or not. If they do believe that then it turns out I’m against net neutrality.

I don't want speech beholden to advertisers and business partners.

Net Neutrality has been a non-issue at best, or hypocritical at worse, for the content providers, in light of blatant censorship and political agenda carried out.


Very cool article. As someone who's very much for small gov't, net neutrality has been a really hard issue for me, personally, as it's making another law to ensure more freedom? Those two concepts are kind of hard to fit together sometimes.

I'm torn... I do support net neutrality. But I guess I also believe that markets get the products they deserve. And if they choose to support operators that constrain their content choices then they are idiots.

I do wonder if net neutrality is supported by a small number of elite/intelligent folk who would be careful in their choices of which providers to support, but realise that given the wider stupidity of the market, their overall lack of market clout will lead to them having no option but to choose a crappy service.

sigh... gives the phrase 'Forcing people to be free' - yet one further dimension.


It is better to let the big telcos attempt to subvert the neutrality of the internet than it is to give the FCC a blank check to do the same in the future.

Blanket data caps have nothing to do with net neutrality.

Negative. People who support net neutrality do not know what net neutrality really is.

Net neutrality is a push by the big corporations to avoid having to pay for the pipeline they use. Google, Netflix, and the like that use huge amounts of bandwidth. You are witnessing rent seeking 101, the corporations on one side are trying to get regulations to help themselves.

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