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With the GOP controlling both Congress and the Presidency, and a luddite POTUS, encryption, digital privacy, and net neutrality are all in danger.


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The War on Citizens will make encryption illegal again.

This is why net neutrality and easy accessible encryption are important.

Out of curiosity do you have any sources that show Republicans as being any more or less anti-encryption than Democrats? The most recent push (for Apple to backdoor iPhones) came from the FBI, and from a fairly left-leaning Justice Department and AG.

Not trying to make this a who-is-worse sort of thing, and I've seen a few articles in sites like Gizmodo, but given how often the mass media is wrong on... well, pretty much everything, it would be nice to have a better source.


We need to ban encryption and the internet. The founders had no idea of the threats to the world that these would cause, the Internet must be nullified to protect the kids.

They lost control when they didn't want to legislate anti-encryption laws.

Right. If everyone hides in encryption, they'll outlaw encryption.

That's why they will probably pass exception laws that allow political elites to use encryption and the tyranny will be inevitable.

I'm pretty sure the responsible, patriotic thing to do now is encrypt the shit out of everything. Right? Do I have that right?

The mere fact that the encryption ban is being discussed and bringing it up doesn't instantly end one's political career is frightening. Access to all individual's communications is a level of trust reserved for closest family members if that. And here government nonchalantly goes on to assume this level of trust from every citizen. Yet everyone except a handful of techies is completely oblivious to how monstrously perverted that is. The future looks really dark right now.

These bills terrify me. A lot of stuff happens in politics that’s frustrating, and much of it doesn’t catch my attention. There’s something about the pure ignorance that goes into breaking encryption that I can’t comprehend. I can understand when bills come through and the extreme differences in opinion are the result of different interpretations of facts and truth, but when it comes to encryption, there is no safe party. We will all suffer equally, every political party and apolitical individual alike, once these idiots make math illegal.

Whatever your political affiliations may be, these are grounds for r/pcm level unity.


We probably need a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to use encryption, otherwise this cat and mouse game will never end.

Yeah, but between every government giving up on banning or limiting or backdooring encryption, and now, a lot of damage can be done. Lots of criminal charges, lots of wasted effort, lots of crapaganda spewed.

I'm not sure what Trump has to do with this, since the government has been fighting/arguing against the populace having strong encryption for awhile.

If they can justify to legislators being able to spy on all network traffic, they can probably also convince those same legislators that encryption is a tool only bad guys use to prevent justice being served.

There's a constant push, at least in the US, for regulation on encryption. It's gotten consistently shot down thus far, thankfully. But it's a never-ending battle. And one day people will most likely become complacent enough to let go and feel the liberty melt away.

Just like the last couple generations have gotten increasingly soft on our right to bear arms. They've been conditioned to believe that it's dangerous, and boomer-like, and no longer important.


Congress obviously either doesn't get it or can't seem to let the encryption issue go because they want access to all our private communications. You can't have it both ways. This is the last dying breathe of a criminal government overreaching.

That's a troubling policy signal, with impact beyond encryption.

Note the "these days" in the comment you're replying to.

Ted Cruz:

https://reason.com/2016/02/18/ted-cruz-says-apple-needs-to-c...

Jeb!:

"If you create encryption, it makes it harder for the American government to do its job — while protecting civil liberties — to make sure that evildoers aren’t in our midst."

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/19/jeb-bush-comes-encryptio...

"On Tuesday, June 23, Senators Graham (R-SC), Cotton (R-AR), and Blackburn (R-TN) introduced a bill that is a full-frontal nuclear assault on encryption in the United States. You can find the bill text here. It's been formally introduced as Senate bill 4051, which you can track here. (Other reactions to the bill so far: EFF, Techdirt.)"

http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there%E2%80%99s-no...

It isn't within the party line to support encryption any longer, because there are no conservatives in government.


I don't want to live in a world where encryption is banned. I also don't want to live in a world where one's political career is instantly ended by bringing it up. Those are just two different flavors of fascism.

Sort of a bummer that lawmakers don't have a better understanding of encryption in general and what it protects. They'd condemn hackers breaking into phones/accounts and stealing important notes/pictures, but turn around and condemn the very technology preventing that from happening to _everybody_

Anybody here want to run for office and be a voice for tech rights?

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