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The only difference between Trump and Pence is that Pence is more qualified to execute the horrible promises they've made.


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Dems didn't want to throw him out. Pence was a competent politician. Trump wasn't. They wanted him embarrassed, not out. Much like the Brits had a plan to assassinate Hitler before D day. Choose not to. They were afraid he would be replaced by someone competent.

If Mike Pence had chosen to go with Trump's delusions, it could've gone very differently.

Trump convinced them Pence had the power to unilaterally overthrow the election and make Trump President for a second term, so they are upset with Pence for not doing that.

Is Trump setting Pence up as the fall-guy?

I think this is missing the part where Pence claimed, yesterday, that Trump will be repealing many LGBT rights. That's not a political opinion, that's a threat.

The difficulty here is that Congress has, for various reasons, not stepped up to do its job.

There are millions of people better-qualified to do the job of President, but a sufficient number of Congresspeople have decided, for reasons I only partially fathom, that Trump is somehow preferable to Pence.

Responsibility for America's debacles, and now, in part, the death of a hundred-thousand people, lies at McConnell's feet, not Trump's. Trump's lack of qualification for the job has been on display since before he took office. McConnell, on the other hand, clearly knows exactly what he is doing.


Don't be glib. Mike pence has come out in favor of conversion therapy for gays, a barbaric method with no scientific basis and a near 50% suicide rate. Trump has sexually assaulted and abused multiple women and has gotten away with it. Trump has called the Mexican people dangerous and a threat to the united States. All of these people are now at risk

You have to be delusional to believe pence has any power. He was chosen to appease a certain part of the party needed to get enough electoral votes.nothing more

I think you're seeing two pieces of outrage over Trump. The first is the predictable liberal outrage: he's proposing policy that conflicts with what liberals want.

Then there's the anger and fear from what appears to be fascist, authorities tendencies in Trump. That's one reason why a President Pence doesn't scare me (and apparently others who are calling for Trump's impeachment). Sure Pence won't work for liberal interests, but at the same time I don't believe he'll be actively working to gut non-partisan areas such as a free press, due process, a free and fair voting process, etc.


Perhaps, but there seems little reason to suppose had Trump/Pence still been in office the decision would have been any different. Just seems you're reading more into the story than is justified.

Looks like Pence actually gave the order to deploy the Guard, not Trump. Trump was reticent.

Also space policy. Trump-Pence space policy has been tremendously successful.

Even Pence has done some distancing. Probably a lot more after he realized that Trump's rhetoric resulted in an assassination attempt.

Pence would literally have the most to gain from removing El Cheeto from office.

In other words, follow the Mike Pence rule.

Trump appears to have had such control over the Secret Service, such that Pence knew better than to get in their car.

I agree that Pence is a concern. His influence on this topic on the admin remains to be seen. I strongly hope he does not have enough say to take us backward.

Trump's answers in those interviews don't sound much different from the ones we heard from Hillary or Obama back when they could not favor gay marriage either --but they've moved on and it looks like Trump has moved on (still, what he might do as policy is unknown, for now).


Perhaps you’re not recalling that the trump admin early on said all public relations must go through Pence. They’re muzzled.

Mike Pence is praying it away. Haven’t you heard?
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