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Since the government had taken over education aren't they responsible for churning out morons who can't think for themselves and distinguish fake news from real news? Perhaps that was their goal all along.


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Since the government had taken over education aren't they responsible for churning out morons who can't think for themselves and distinguish fake news from real news? Perhaps that was their goal all along.

> School's purpose is not to teach obedience or even getting a job. It is there to teach us critical thinking, and consequently, how to be a good citizen.

I'd say the plague of fake news shows that the current crop of educated population is not capable of critical thinking.


Joke's on them when the US decides educational facts are fake news and we pull a full 180.

Indeed; the idea that there was some intentional shadowy conspiracy to generate docile adults to meet the demand of the state is quite far-fetched. But the idea that the growing demands of the state gradually shaped the educational system seems nearly unavoidable.

Because of the human need for narrative, people always try to frame these stories in terms of heroes or villains and the actions they took. The truth is this kind of thing happens through a kind of emergent behaviour; no one person makes these choices, but they're forced into them through the structure and needs of the organizations they're a part of. On the one hand this seems more mundane and dull, but on the other hand in a way it's more sinister since a human can be stopped or reasoned with, but an organization usually cannot.


It is not "the government's job" to educate people. Full stop.

The thing to understand is that ten years of conservative government have ravaged education and any respect for intellectual integrity. School is about setting arbitrary exams to prove that any failure of the student is entirely their own. That's why the university system is inundated with milquetoast students who behave as strategically as possible when doing any work.

It's been quite obvious for some time that learning institutions (especially at the university level) have an ever stronger left leaning political and cultural agenda. Who better to indoctrinate to push their agenda than future leaders?

These "wise fools" will be the ruin of us all.


And the scary bit is that masses of people are ready to ingest that bullshit, praise it and some idolise it.

The real question is where did our education system fail since so many people lack critical thinking and how did the quality of services fall to a level where a bullshit generator sound like a plausible replacement of some workers.


A lot of good and smart kids have disdain for authority and status-quo. I will not be surprised that this students will be harassed by these government policies.

We need to take schooling back from government.


I doubt that the people involved are stupid, or are trying to punish their opponents because of a lack of education. Better education might lead to more effective attacks, it won't stop them.

Chilling. It seems to be about monitoring for criticism of said government. Maybe the government should be working out how to fund education better instead of covering up its incompetences.

I don't follow education policy so I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but I'd be curious to hear what you think the government's motivation is for "trying desperately" to do this.

I mean, accidentally wrecking education while trying to do something else is perfectly plausible, but deliberately wrecking education is kind of a strong claim.


A seemingly growing trend of anti-intellectualism and anti-education, probably can't be good.

What a completely absurd and nonsense take. Where does this "purpose" get decided? Some secret cabal that controls the education system? Insane.

There are some flaws in our education system that are likely the result of the fact that it is huge, serves an incredibly diverse set of people, and thus is a very complex and difficult to manage system.

There's no secret back room of evil people controlling the populace via an imperfect education system. What a weird take.


Thinking everything is a conspiracy is giving the assholes too much credit.

The education system is an education system. It's bad because it's underfunded, mismanaged, and pulled in multiple directions for political reasons, not to mention occasionally tasked with impossible jobs, such as keeping a roomful of emotionally disturbed children going in the same direction using only one underpaid teacher and a couple para-professionals. If it were actively designed to be malicious, it would be a lot more competent.


Most of school is psychological conditioning. This would be a wonderful conspiracy theory if the government was a bit more efficient about it. :)

In my K-12 public school years, the propaganda was just a dab. The schools were well-meaning and at least tried to educate us.

These days, though, the social engineering seems front and center.


Sounds kind of conspiratorial.

I think any increase in educational content is good, even if ‘bad actors’ are funding it.


"It's not less honest [of the government]...[it] is a failure of the [government run] educational system"

Think about that for a minute

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