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So let me get this straight...

You're saying that because they don't have the financial wiggle room to make their property something you want to look at they should GTFO?



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Because they're the ones who own the property.

They don't provide value; they gatekeep resources.


Because there is not enough for everyone and the property should not be treated as an investment.

I wouldn't be willing to dump a significant chunk of my wealth into a structure built by a company who makes a point to ignore building codes and zoning laws.

Sounds like a disaster.


If they lease or sell it, they should not.

They bought it while fully aware of those shortcomings. It’s like people buying cheap land next to an airport, building a house, complaining about the aircraft noise.

Do not buy it.

> Are you serious?

I am.


Or you could move elsewhere if you can't afford to develop something custom. There is no entitlement to someone else's property.

I wish just one of you droids parroting this argument was actually old enough to have done it. My parents own a property like this. They are never going to sell it because (among other things) they have invested more money in upkeep and renovations to make it just the way they want it than it is worth to an average buyer, plus they like having it for family get-togethers. It's simply not at all the investment vehicle you starry-eyed dreamers think it is.

It really doesn't deserve the real estate that it's taking up. Terrible decision imo.

If preservationists want a building to stay as is, they should buy it. Otherwise they have no business dictating how others use their property.

Lots of comments here complaining about the fact that squatting is allowed.

But the property seems to have been empty for years. It's hard for me to be sympathetic to the right to leave a property completely vacant and unused.


> Landlords don't provide housing, property developers do.

With rare exceptions, developers want nothing to do with owning the properties they build. They want to finish the build and get those properties off their books and close the contruction loans and move on.

So somone has to own the property after build is complete.


The property we invested in is derelict - it is not fit for habitation! When we have rebuilt it it will be in great condition and available for a family to live in. Why is this investment a problem - do you prefer seeing many ruins? I was complaining about the insane bureaucracy we have to go through, before we can even start rebuilding ie rents have risen because of supply problems and is not just a demand problem.

Any company wasting loads of cash on stupid real estate doesn't deserve to stay in business.

Because there's no way to justify their ludicrous valuation if you admit that they are a real estate company.

> Doesn't that make you not want to buy property in the first place?

If it was a common problem, then yes. But it's relatively uncommon, and to be honest, I'd rather have the existing system in place where people can legally occupy unused buildings, because there is a lot of them around here. And lots of property owners just keep them empty for years until their "investment" gives them the returns they want, which to me is a bigger problem than okupas.


They should cancel the Condo Development IMO.

And they're clearly not interested in making money since they've abandoned the project and are going bankrupt, so none of what you said has any validity here.

Should houses collapse when the builder goes out of business? Should people be banned from living in them or making custom repairs because "What about the company's creditors!"

Precluding a third party from performing after market-maintenance on a dead product and forbidding a current user to continue using something they paid for isn't capitalist--it's anticapitalist and purely spiteful.


A piece of land in a great location that you can't build a house/apartment or carpark on is still worthless for all intents and purposes.

The only reason someone would buy it is to speculate that one day you can build something there.

Zoning dictates prices, it's a struggle to get people to understand that sometimes.


So it seems like you are conceding that the reason those homes are unoccupied is largely unrelated to 'treating them as a financial asset.'
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