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"No one is going to make much money being really good at radio, any more than they will be really good at machining steel,"

How do you know? For instance, I'd suggest that not every method of modulation has been invented or even yet implemented. Also, we've hardly begun to design and implement meta materials into antennae and RF filters—the field's still wide open for innovation and invention.

And new methods of 'machining' steel have recently been invented and are just coming into use (if I owned the patents I'd be sitting pretty for life).


Many have tried and failed. I salute the attempt but I would take a bet against it. I have tried to get access to high end radios that don't have strange carrier modes and haven't found them. A usb modem goes a long way in terms of isolating things but the new tricks are way smarter than the old.

Virtually every professional radio is software defined to some extent these days, so every company that designs radios wants signal processing and information theory skills, more so if they are doing proprietary protocols rather than implementing a standard. It's pretty well the same skill set, whether you are designing or analysing systems. There is a surprising amount of reverse engineering in building radio systems, as the big players (looking at you Motorola) often drop speed humps into their implemetations to try and break compatability with the smaller players' products.

As far as prior art on the receiving side lets not forget about good old fashioned crystal radios https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Open source radio tech is great!

This is the radio chip used in their hardware: https://www.semtech.com/products/wireless-rf/lora-transceive...

Very similar to the CC1200 I used in a radio I designed in 2013: https://www.ti.com/product/CC1200

Low data rate networks are super interesting. The long range let’s you do things you wouldn’t do with WiFi. But what i would really like is a high bandwidth long range mesh. The issue you run in to is who owns the spectrum. In the US it’s private communications companies that buy large chunks of spectrum. I’d like to see more valuable spectrum allotted for public use. This would pave the way for free or very low cost municipal cell phone service. Unfortunately there is big money interested in making sure that doesn’t happen. And with “business friendly” people in the FCC, the idea of free communications doesn’t have much traction.

This radio project looks cool. Ideally we’d have a generic 915mhz radio in our cell phones. I guess since this device also has WiFi, you could connect a phone pretty easily. Let’s beg the Librem folks to add a sub-Gigabertz radio (915/868/433MHz) to their next phone. :-D


This idea of using FM and UHF radio as a dependable emergency communication system lead me to the idea for my current project im working on which is a redundent mesh network built using radio networks. At least that's where I started. The project is a combination of standard "new" IoT technologies like GSM and Wi-Fi with my own mesh radio system. Only some nodes are GSM enabled all of the nodes use traditional UHF communications. At first I wanted to use different FM radio frequencies with frequency reuse patterns to implement a simple mesh network routing protocol as a proof of concept. But I was still a beginner in RF and I soon relaized that the FM, marine, and air bands have a bunch of FCC regulations making it illegal to transmit data at my goal of at least 500 m (0.5 km) let alone finding a cheap/simple implementation circut or chip for someone new to RF design like I was. This lead to the idea of just using 433 MHz transivers to accomplish the same goal. And lucky, there are tons of simple tranciver boards by various manufacturers with simple interfaces and long ranges even with non ideal antennas. I've gotten a point where I have these small solar powered packages you can just mount anywhere and can last up to 12/14 days on 4 hours of full sunlight charge. I've also reached the stage where I can top worrying about hardware implementations and work more on software such as a nice dashboard, a more thought out routing algorithm (instead of just simple backtracking), and more ideas such as being able to send data back into the network to take certain actions in the physical world such as localized warnings. A more powerful use case I witnessed firsthand would be to use a robust system like this to control water systems such as wastewater and freshwater systems for municipalites in sever weather incidents such as hurricanes. Pump stations can be equipped with backup power but data from these stations and various sensors in the system are interrupted durring sever stroms like hurricane when these systems are most critical and need sensor data to make sure the system keeps running.

I see the older technologies as solid foundation for robust networks. Most of these old systems are behind in terms of implementation technology but the foundations of these technologies are very strong. I believe that by integrating the robustness of older technologies with newer systems you can get the befits of new systems and technology but keep the robustness and stability of older systems.


You can develop a phone using open band (CB radio for example).

I'm intrigued by things like this that used to be high technology but now are mature and pushed way down into the infrastructure. No one is going to make much money being really good at radio, any more than they will be really good at machining steel, but it's still necessary for higher levels of the tech stack to function.

Obviously it's more complicated and expensive - the radio hardware is massively more capable.

Also, you're not entirely correct about how the system works.


Obviously but you need to TX/RX on some sort of frequency otherwise it's not really a radio :).

I was just wondering if there's spectrum allocated for experimentation or if you'd be stepping on FCC rules by putting this into practice.


Real life communications have been interrupted by faulty sump pump motors and bad LED drivers. Actually trying to build a radio is no guarantee of success.

A long time ago, we were acquiring the shadiest RF devices possible to test against our WiFi routers, which should avoid auto-selecting interfering frequencies. One device we got was an analog wireless security camera thingie bought right from Amazon. "2.4GHz" it declared, so it was the perfect test case. We turned it on and there was no WiFi interference whatsoever. We got out the test equipment and... its carrier frequency was right on the edge of the L1 GPS frequency. You turn the thing on, there goes GPS for the neighborhood. It was impressively disastrous and we did not test it any further!

That's a company trying to build a radio product, for sale to consumers in the US market. I don't have a lot more faith in random people trying to build FM radios. Sure, you'll know if it doesn't work, because you tune your car radio to it and you can't hear anything. But unless you're careful, you can radiate a lot of power in the sidebands and the harmonics. That will trash licensed spectrum users, which is Not Nice Of You. (As for "amateur radio" operators, how to build and test radios is part of the exam, so there are a lot of great homebuilt radios floating around out there. Also part of the test is knowing when you can use non-amateur frequencies, and what the punishment for doing so is. Needless to say, not a lot of trained hams are building pirate radio stations. So that brings the likelihood of doing a bad job even higher; by definition, only the unlicensed and untrained are even trying this.)

This comment is already too long but I want to relay another fun fact. Building a receiver can interfere with other users of the spectrum; a common design mixes the incoming radio signal by a higher frequency, filters it, and then mixes it down to audio frequencies. If you don't shield this well, then your receiver is actually a transmitter on some random other band. Be careful and test your design with a spectrum analyzer. It's not rocket science but it's not trivial either.


At the frequencies relevant to the present invention, mostly RF front-ends. Wireless cards, cellphones, radars, etc.

People want cheap, ubiquitous networked radio emitting devices. There is a fundamental trade-off there...

You still need equipment to transmit/receive radio...

I would understand perhaps semaphore because anyone can wave their arms about and communicate long distances.

But since radio requires equipment anyway, you might as well use modern digital equipment - with the benefit that in the same amount of time, power and bandwidth that a morse signal would use, you can send 10,000x more data.


By far most communication is in the microwave bands, such as WiFi, cell phones, Bluetooth

I am a firefighter/EMR in California.

There is nothing wrong with two way radios, per se. The issue is the FCC "typing" rules that disallow a single device operating on multiple, disparate frequency bands.

Imagine I respond to a car accident and need to call for a helicopter and arrange a landing zone. In this situation, I will be juggling four brick sized radios throughout the duration of that call.[1] Possibly while driving.

We have started to funnel most comms to "tablet command mobile" on our personal phones, which is all text based and ties into GPS map on the phone, etc. - this is very efficient and works very well, but it is heavily dependent on infrastructure we don't control (the mobile phone network).

Anything complicated and we're juggling four bricks again. It's very frustrating, especially in an era of SDRs that could very obviously give me p25+calcord+GMRS all in one simple device.

[1] Pager that the call came in on, county P25 radio that we use all the time, Hi-Band radio to speak on "calcord" to the helicopter, GMRS handheld for traffic control.


Radio Mobile is a free RF design software that was originally created for amateur radio applications but can also be used for commercial radio systems design. It was developed and continuously being developed by Roger Coudé (VE2DBE), an amateur radio enthusiast.

Radio Mobile is a free RF design software that was originally created for amateur radio applications but can also be used for commercial radio systems design. It was developed and continuously being developed by Roger Coudé (VE2DBE), an amateur radio enthusiast.

It would really be great to see license-free 900 MHz radios come to smartphones. Text only store-and-forward would be more than fine for many use cases.
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