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Can't you be a realist while still being idealistic? Isn't that a bit of an advantage, too - seeing the world for what it actually is?

Searching for historical examples, JFK was both?



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idealistic view of the world vs the reality of the world

You can be a realist visionary.

I’m a realist who understands how the world really works and not some effete idealist.

I am a realist.

I'd say you are a realist.

ideals vs reality

Realism vs idealism, I guess.

Or a realist

Depends on whether you are a realist or not.

Realists also think of themselves as realists, so there's that.

Plus, every starry-eyed, la-la land, Polyanna thinks themselves not naive!


I have often argued that "being realist" is a failure in and of itself. If people said "well, there's a king and that's what it is", we'd never have got to where we are now.

Ideologies (and ideas) are, in my view, stronger than facts, which often only represent the past, while ideas shape the future.

(these days the word "fact" is a bit of a trigger, but I thought about that well before all that jazz, and the current phenomenom seemed to prove my point to many of my friends)


Depressive realism isn’t actually “realistic”, it’s called realism because you think it’s real when you have it.

Similarly “realists” in foreign policy aren’t actually realistic, “effective altruists” aren’t necessarily either, “fast” programs aren’t necessarily fast.

That’s why you should name your identities with more humility.


Reality and ideal are different existences. It's not always healthy to accept reality as a constant fact.

It's actually an ideal. Ideals also don't exist in reality. The difference is that ideals are generally held to be worth striving for in spite of that.

You cannot even say one interpretation is idealism and the other is realism because it is US pop culture bullshit. You notice because your remark has an added indignation.

That is an ideal. Reality is a mixed bag.

That's a fancy way of saying "realist."

Not being realistic can also mean that you are creative on false premises, and that the result might fail because of it. By being realistic about the world and the environment surrounding you be it work-, political-, economical- or otherwise you can see actual problems plaguing others, and _maybe_ you can generate something that solves a tiny part of what people struggle with.

That's the point. One has to be blind to reality to have such "idealism". They should know better.
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