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The horse was fairly popular with people who lacked drivers licenses. Maybe check back in a few millennia.


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There's people alive today, that when they were born, horses were more common than cars.

People used to have horses instead of cars, people still managed.

Remember, horses were the common mode of transportation then.

Horses were around for thousands of years. Henry Ford said people would just wanted a faster horse.

Most people lack imagination.


Horse ownership was not as prevalent as car ownership is now. Horses were and are incredibly expensive to own.

I think a better argument is that 'everyone' has a car, but in old cities, far from 'everyone' had a horse - they were for businesses or the wealthy only.

is this a serious response?

before they had cars people used horses.


Pretty sure horse carriages were around a lot earlier than 1400, unless you were thinking BC.

The idea is as old as a car because with a horse and cart you could doze off and trust the horse on usual routes.

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point someone tried to train animals to do the driving and achieved modest success.


My counter to this line of thinking, when it's come up in conversations before, is this:

Horses are still legally permitted on basically all of the roads they were before automobiles were invented.

Granted, they're generally quite rare, expensive to maintain, and a luxury ... but they're still with us.


Out of curiosity, how many years was the transition between horse and automobile? I would bet this will be the same. I don't think it's driven by technology, I think it's driven by human sociocultural inertia or whatever the right term is to describe when we irrationally latch on to things.

I personally think horses are far more complicated to "own" (and operate) than a car; however, horses were freely available back when, and cars were not.

Horses were self-driving long before your silly fiat cars.

While I certainly tend more on your side of this discussion, I wonder to what degree your first point demonstrates a modern bias rather than an objective comparison.

Cars could only travel on roads, you couldn't go wherever you liked as on a horse. Narrow passages you could previously have ridden down were now inaccessible.

You need to put fuel in your car, which was probably even harder then than finding an electric car charger at the start of their existence. Providing food and drink for a horse was comparatively trivial.

Horses could easily be tied up outside of whatever store or destination you were visiting. What were the social costs of parking a great big machine outside of your local? To say nothing of parking as a town- or city-wide logistical problem.


you completely miss the point that for many, horses were for daily transportation.. to and from work, the store, school, supply houses, meeting halls, civic participation.. all kinds of things

Wouldn't it be the other way around?

As cars became more popular for transportation, people stopped learning how to take care of horses.


People still ride horses and enjoy doing it, but I don't see anyone advocating using horses for their daily driver (the Amish excluded). Driving for pleasure doesn't have to go away.

I suppose people that were into horses felt the same way when automobiles were first introduced.

But nobody was told "you have five years to trade your horse in on a car, or send it to the glue factory". Horse are still legal and used to this day, they just mostly lost out to market forces... that is, cars are simply a better mode of transportation for most people most of the time.

But you can still ride a horse if you want to (albeit probably not on freeways, but certainly on country roads). Now, if the proposal was that certain limited access, high-speed highways are restricted to only self-driving cars, I might be able to accept that, even if somewhat grudgingly. But outlawing human driven cars completely, even on backroads? I just can't see it.


My parents, which represent an average person nowadays, do know how to ride a horse to get somewhere. What they don't know is how to drive a automobile, even more- for them gasoline=danger. Cars can be a nieche solution for some nieche ppl, but I don't see how it can become mainstream now, as a business you anyway need a classic horse barn bc too few ppl know what is a automobile and how to use it
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