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That's why I can't take any gun rights advocate seriously.


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Peaceful gun rights advocates doesn't fit the "Guns are bad, mkay." narrative.

Well, looks like you could have said that you consider any gun control advocates as hypocrites, then. (Shrug)

Their lack of support for the second amendment is the only reason I don’t support them. It proves that they’re politically slanted and it truly for my civil rights. Unfortunately the NRA has drifted from their core issue to bashing non-conservative candidates. I also can’t support them.

As I said, I support gun control but don't see it as a viable political goal. So I guess I won't be stunned if gun advocates continue to gun advocate.

I don't think I ever met anyone who was "pro-gun" but not about individual liberties.

Anti-NRA people would say that they are lobbyists for the gun industry, they are extreme, they don't compromise, etc. But really they just disagree with their viewpoint.

I absolutely support gun rights, gun advocacy necessary to protect those rights, gun education, and gun safety.

But elements of the NRA leadership have been irretrievably corrupt for some time, in my opinion, and I tell them that every time they call to ask for a donation. I'm not paying for Wayne LaPierre's private jets.


I think you have too much faith in the political process. The gun lobby ensures that there is no debate on gun control.

Most people who are anti-gun, such as yourself due to your "BS amendment" comment, are usually very ignorant or fearful of guns.

As a very middle of the road type of guy, I joined NRA and 2nd Amendment Foundation for the first time a few months ago because of too many people like you who are too easily influenced by the media in the past 6 months.


The US has more anti-gun-violence activists than anywhere else in the world.

Because other people don't have this problem. And when you get right down to it, they have megaphones and placards, while their opponents have guns. Amazingly, the gun owners have more political power.

My views on gun ownership are complex and don't fit neatly into existing pigeonholes - I'm very much in favor of the right to own weapons, but also in additional social responsibilities that ought to accompany that. I have a lot of sympathy with the gun control crowd even though I disagree with many of their arguments, but the fact is their tactics are simply not working. Unfortunately they don't want to change their approach because they're so locked into the moral dimension of their argument that they're unwilling to consider any other approach. Likewise the 2nd amendment absolutists are so intransigent that they keep retreating to a hardline position of 'shall not be infringed! shall not be infringed!' and then complaining about how unreasonable their opponents are.


Apologies if this devolves, but I have to comment: Except that many gun control advocates do argue as they do because they don't understand guns and the processes around them. Not so silly.

Taking the NRA at face value is absurd. When actually innocent gun owners get shot and killed by police for no reason, they are routinely silent.

They don't care about gun rights, they care about the stock price of arms manufacturers.


I like the guy, but to claim that he is pro-gun is a little bit of a stretch...

I've never met one. But if they were campaigning to infringe upon my gun rights I certainly would.

Are you trying to discredit gun rights advocates?

This is going to be unpopular, but the NRA is really just a bunch of conservative rednecks who throw tantrums when they don't get things their way. It's the kind of people who post pictures of their $20k arsenal on Facebook, like to shoot at empty bottles in their backyards with semiautomatic weapons just because they think it's fun, and somehow they have it in their heads that blowing things up every Sunday afternoon is their God given right- any form of additional regulation gets in the way of their fun.

It's hard to imagine when you're a well educated, well spoken rational person living in a large city: if you want to understand, go spend some time in the rural southern states, where you will meet many such people.

I get that it's not good mental hygiene to say things bluntly and generically like I am in this post, but coming from a country where guns are treated with much more circumspection than they are in the US, having lived in the south and met many of the aforementioned types, I just have to call a spade a spade. I tried for a long time to develop a better understanding of it than "just dumb dudes who like seeing things blow up", but I have failed.


He's pro 'gun-rights'.

I wonder why they don't use this argument to advocate gun control.

The parent didn't mention the political right or the NRA. There are a massive number of gun rights supporters that do not fall into such convenient stereotypes.
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