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Hey, I never said they had the sense god gave a watermelon. These decisions are usually made by whoever can talk louder.


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This argument is a lot like saying "Let God decide" when in reality it is people doing the deciding.

Or they changed their mind (which they are entitled to do).

Don't underestimate how tone deaf or out-of-touch some people can be. You see this kind of stuff all the time, and it really is people who are making unbelievably hare-brained decisions.

Do they fail to understand or are they just unwilling to fight over it?

Plenty of decisions that I have view as stupid that I acquiesce to avoid having to fight.


A charitable interpretation of that decision would account for the fact that they have more information than you do about the situation.

It seems they only changed their mind under pressure, not because they really stand by it. These people should know better in the first place.

They have already made up their mind.

They have the freedom to do make that decision just as I have the freedom to voice my disagreement.

Ok, maybe their english sucks. Do you ever get better at something by not practising?


During these conversations, there were never clear signs that the "decision was made and the path was chosen". My concerns were usually replied with "huh, ok". Therefore, I continually brought it up, since it was my interpretation that people were not convinced yet.

You realize this is an opinion right? That even the stance of "let the people this affects make the decision" is a position you're choosing to take.

Also: NOBODY thought that was a pun. Ew.


When you're making the decision entirely based on concerns with their speech, that starts sounding like a technicality to me.

People can change their mind.

Yeah, that's the inherent problem with this sort of thing. We say the moral thing is to show them and let them decide, but they can't make an informed decision. A lot of things sound really good when you hear about them, but wind up utterly unsatisfying when you actually have them.

They already decide. That's their business.

I mean, or they changed their minds. It does happen occasionally.

Then it sucks to be them. You can't blame everyone else for making a decision when you refuse to voice your opinion on said decision.

That part was tounge-in-cheek, as should be clear from the parenthetical remark that follows it. Sorry for confusing your sarcasm detector.

(Also, like a sibling wrote, being part of a decision process doesn't mean that you ultimately agree with all majority decisions, but whatever.)


But they should be the ones to decide, right?

Yes, they could be making a rational choice that we don't agree with.
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