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In places like Hong Kong and Singapore this is not his right and their mentally disabled are much better off. Much less revolving door, less stigma, less crime, more family support, etc.

Just because we do something one way doesn't make it the best way.



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Where 'doing the right thing' is synonymous with 'being abled bodied' in this case.

Being disabled is expensive. Adding to that cost, because being disabled also has more 'externalities' is a pretty vindictive move.

Not to mention the fact that it means rich folks get to do the 'wrong thing' more, and with less significant personal consequences.

Sounds like a terrible system.


I agree with this. I'll add that if you want him to work and still receive aid you're probably better off moving to a state or country that doesn't treat their disabled so badly.

Of "first world" countries US is the worst place to be if you have disabilies.


>We treat disabled people OK, don't we?

Who are we? Disabled people treated differently in different places. In many places you'd prefer death most likely.


Yeah, those people shouldn't have made the choice to be disabled.

Making ends meet isn't really the issue. Mentally disabled people are usually taken care of by relatives. They can't live on their own.

But they want to feel valued and do worthwhile things. By pricing them out of a job, they are denied that opportunity.


That's not the point OP is making. OP is saying that having the right-of-way does a fat lot of good to someone who now has to live life as a quadriplegic.

Actually, yes, and the reason is, if the disabled (and being able-bodied is only a temporary situation, for everyone) took their business elsewhere, those companies would lose business to those that of their own free choice did install whatever accessibility.

It's better of society if people do the right things for the right reasons, not because there's a threat of the law hanging over their heads.


>leads inexorably to erasing human autonomy

Not really - it can work the other way where people who are handicapped and need carers will be able to regain independence.


This is a just outcome. The disabled have a right to access society.

> - Lower cost - Quicker install time - Aesthetics

The disability issue is orthogonal. You either develop with it in mind or just ignore it and hope it will go away at a later stage. This is wrong!


Seconded. That stood out to me too in his post. Disability seems to be widely abused in the western world. I'm for social welfare, but I'm not for mismanagement and abuse. Disability as it exists today is a concern that needs to be addressed.

> we don't need to bring the whole world down to the lowest common denominator.

... says the man who isn't disabled.


Did you actually read the link?

Seems like she very specifically wants to draw LESS sympathy for herself, at least over this. From her description, her husband doesn't seem keen on letting his disability slow him down or prevent him from living life either.

As far as the demanding accommodations go, I think ramped entrances and handicapped parking spots are pretty reasonable standards, ones which have been legally mandated for many years now. While I commend your father for finding folks who respect him to do business with, I cannot agree that it is morally wrong to demand equal access. The American Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act both exist because it was determined that equal access to public businesses and accommodations is a moral imperative, and a right even. I don't think the author is out of line for being frustrated that in 2017 it's still difficult to do something as benign as go out to eat with someone who uses a wheelchair.


It's pretty discriminatory towards disabilities for one thing.

I understand your point, but I don't share the same interpretation of the author's point.

I don't think the author is claiming that he wants the /only/ face of the culture to be the most disabled members of society. I think the point is that those people are increasingly being pushed to the side-lines.


You're right. Disabled people don't have special rights. It doesn't mean we can't choose to help them. After all, today it's them, tomorrow it's I.

Boo, that's pretty horrible. Lots of disabled people are able and willing to work around their disability.

It's not socially OK to be disabled in China. There's a very strong pressure to conform to a certain standard, e.g. use a bleach to whiten skin for women, dress "appropriately", be able bodied, be Han, etc.

I find your attitude as entitled and dishonest; that law did not target disabled people, so you cannot say it is anti-disabled people, it is just a side-effect. It's that simple.
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