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At higher speeds I believe road noise from tires is the dominating noise factor.


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Most car noise on high speed roads is tire noise, not engine noise

Noise actually isn't a factor. After about 20mph tire noise drowns out engine noise.

Excluding cars that are purposely build/modified to be annoyingly loud.


Past 35 mph, most road noise is from the tires against the road.

The parent's point is that the engine isn't the largest contributor of noise. At low speeds the engine noise dominates, at "high" (meaning normal driving speeds) speeds the tire noise dominates.

Go listen to a highway and see if you can hear the engines over the wooshing.


Above 20ish mph most of the noise from cars come from their tires not from the engine.

I looked this up a while ago, and tire noise accounts for 94% of noise over 60 MPH.

That's exactly what I said.

>For speeds higher than 30 km/h the tire/road noise gets dominant and from there on the choice of tire is more essential to noise reduction.

City speed is 50km/h and EVs for some reason comes with loud tires.


At any dangerous speed the tire noise dominates anyway.

At city speeds, tire noise exceeds engine noise in many internal-combustion vehicles as well.

At any speed you'd do on a road, even on suburban back roads tyre noise can match or exceed engine noise.

Depends on speed. In cities, most noise tends to be from engines (esp trucks, buses etc). On motorways, engine noise plays little role.

I challenge this opinion. If you have any ressources to back your claim, please share!

My estimates for the velocity where tire noise will be substantially louder than the rest of the car are much higher, more like 60km/h.


at 50km/h air friction with tires etc is half of the noise, and it goes from there.

And as I've stated at those speeds tire noise is dominating the overal sound for most cars already.

> Now you're talking about highways. People don't typically drive at highway speeds on city streets.

That was an illustrative example. Tires typically overtakes engine noise at about 25mph. That's city street speeds. (In most car-dependent cities 40-50 is also typical city street speed.) Again, this is why tires are the majority of car noise. When you hear a car pass by on a non-highway road, you're mostly hearing tires.

If wind is a serious factor either you need to publish your secret findings or link me to some research I'm not finding.


Most of the noise from cars is from the tyres.

Depends on the street. Once you get above a certain speed most of the noise is tire noise, not engine noise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadway_noise


Most road noise generated from a vehicle is from tires on the ground once you get above 18 mph. Modern mufflers are remarkably effective at silencing the engine.

IIRC at highway speeds the overall shape of the car moving through the air is also a significant noise generator, but I don't remember where I read that right now.


Up from certain speed more noise is coming from wheels, not engine. Especially if there are defects in the pavement.
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