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You could have said the same about Arizona

And there's "no difference" for the average candidate, not for outliers.



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This simply isn't true. It matters in the Primary. There was a real choice this year.

Ok but that still doesn't make it mainstream or have a candidate pool. If those things don't matter then anything goes.

This was a close race, not some race in, say, rural Wyoming or San Francisco where one party is essentially the only one that counts.

Extreme variations are more likely the smaller your sample size is, considering America has a two party system they have a very small sample size causing it to be prone to extreme variation. Examples: No women candidate, no candidate that is not a politician, no candidate that favors alternate economic models, etc etc. This makes no "good" candidates according to a particular individual's view highly likely.

National primary turnout (as a whole or for any one party) is neither really meaningfully comparable across elections (because of changes in methodology of particular primaries, changes in timing between primaries, differences in the course of elections which change the perceived value of voting in later primaries, etc.) nor predictive of general election turnout (so pointing to primary turnout as evidence of a party's or its nominee's strength in the general election is meaningless.)

Only of value in states with open primaries.

I don't see how this would be different from any other election with new candidates from both parties.

The targeted precision really is what's different. Your candidate can be N different single-issue candidates in a way that's just not possible without precise targeting.

The "echo chambers" explanation, in particular, seems wrong. Echo chambers always existed.


Also note that's "the typical (republican running in San Francisco)", as distinct from "(the typical republican) running in San Francisco", who would likely get even fewer votes.

That still doesn't explain the complete absence of a candidate which breaks rank on those two issues but otherwise plays by the progressive playbook.

That presumes candidates would campaign the same way and voters would vote the same way.

Look at the way primaries are run. Candidates put extraordinary effort into small states because that's where the party has decided it wants to have its candidates slug it out. They could instead choose larger states but they don't. Or the candidates could campaign in larger states but it would sink their candidacy --they campaign in order to extract maximum value. It's similar with presidential campaigns.



Because it’s harder to make an objective comparison between candidates if you do that.

Totally dishonest to compare primaries to general elections.

It does. It shows a third party candidate can surpass expectations and still come nowhere close to winning a state.

Sure, but none of those reasons are the reason for excluding Colorado candidates.

The electoral college plays no role in the primary nominating process.

The alternative view is that CA, MA, and NY already get a Democrat candidate 95/270 or 35% of the way to the Presidency with just 20% of the population. Do those states really need a greater impact?

I'm kind of curious - do you honestly feel like there is actually 0 difference between which way this election goes?

Assume for a moment that 3rd party candidates won't win.

What makes you think that the policies and backgrounds for both of these candidates will have the same effect on our country either way?

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