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To be slander it would have to be provably false, not to simply be something that they can't prove to be true.


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It's only slander if it's false.

It’s not slander if it’s true, right?

agreed that my usage of the term slander was loose, not legal, more along the laymen's usage. I simply meant that it is a negative claim of the target.

As you've said its not slander unless proven false.


If I had had a long public life filled with actions whose only explanation are malice or irrationality, I don't think it would be slander, no, even if the argument wasn't very well constructed. That doesn't make it a good argument, I just don't think it qualifies as slander. (Or libel.) For one thing, slander or libel in the US has to be actually false.

That's not how libel and slander works. You not only have to prove that the statements were false, but that the accuser knew they were false and was deliberately malicious in spreading the falsehoods

The very concept of slander could be defined as "smoke without fire". Surely you agree that slander exists, whether or not it's the case in this particular situation?

Wrong. That's slander.

You can't just make stuff up.


By slander, you mean make false comments?

Slander is spoken defamation, and defamation is by definition untrue statements.

So Truth isn't really a defense against a slander allegation; it's a refutation of that allegation. If the spoken words are true, they can't be defamatory, so they can't be slander.


I think you need to refresh your memory on the definition of slander. But let me help: slander is a false statement. I didn't make one of those.

> Publishing something that HR/PR can consider slander

The truth can not under any reasonable definition be considered slander.


It's not slander if they just say it to you. They'd have to say in in some kind of public venue.

slander implies the quoted information was false. The argument isn't that the information presented was false. It was that it was presented at all.

You are generally free to speak with someone and report it.


It's not libel if it's true, and they'd only need to prove that to civil standard.

Truth is an absolute defense to the claim of libel or slander in the US, but not in all worldwide jurisdictions.

If it's _actually_ false, they can be sued for libel.

Which part of the statement is slander?

Slander is a crime.

Slander is a crime.
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