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Same in Netherlands. Google Maps has recently become worse and worse. Small pedestrian roads are missing, and the navigation is getting stupid. Google applies the one-way limitations for cars also on cycling routes.


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Also in central Europe. Maps and navigation in the Croatian countryside is comically broken. Not only are the locations of addresses way off, if you travel to that location, they'll then send you somewhere else and eventually in a circle.

Maybe they don't care about poor countries with lower usage, but I'd be embarrassed to have that in my product.

Having said that, rich western Europe is in some ways no better. If you create a public transport route, Google maps will send you walking hundreds of meters around non-existent barriers, or sometimes insist that you go one tram stop past and then catch the tram back to the stop you want to go to.

Maps, like search seems to be slowly suffering from some sort of corporate rot over at Google.


When I was vacationing in Portugal Google Maps consistently sent us down the narrowest two-way single-lane roads that existed. Even after I explicitly picked the saner route it kept rerouting onto the steering wheel death grip roads.

Fun story, driving through Croatia toward Split Google Maps kept telling me the main freeway was closed and to take each and every exit. Someone is maliciously reporting roads closed. Obviously the same could happen to OSM, but there isn't the same 'no way to fix it until Google decides to fix it'.

Similarly when I was in Bangkok wandering around, Google wanted to cross the train tracks at a road that tripled the walking distance to the destination. In reality it was possible to cross the train tracks (i.e an actual crossing, not just anywhere). Worse it was much more dangerous to walk the Google route.

Fixing it on OSM was easy. Fixing it on Google was a pain because it had to be submitted and checked and approved (which it eventually was).

There are definitely places where OSM is far outstripping Google maps. Especially when it comes to non-roads.


Google maps doesn't understand sections where I want to ride on the road instead of a nearby "bike path", this makes it unusable to me. Quite a lot of my riding is done along a road where basically a whole lane gets permanently take up by cyclists on the weekend but google maps will keep giving me directions to turn onto the bike path next to it, the path is a glorified footpath constantly covered in children and dogs.

I've had some horrendous experiences using Google Maps for cycling in the UK too. Mostly it's very good, and it's impressive how good it is, really, but it's the times it gets it wrong that you remember.

Routing me through a park in the middle of the night, when it was closed, was one. Taking me on a detour to avoid a busy road, which turned to be on a farm track where the road surface was completely destroyed, was another.


Google Maps, from my experience, is unusable for cyclists - I don't know where they're getting their data, but one instance that stands up to me till this day is when it tried to get me on an express way, on a lane with opposite traffic. Or, when it tries to get me to go through pathways that are looooong overgrown. That's in London.

I used to get that in Sweden when riding a bicycle.

Not to mention that maps at that point (and still) doesn't understand cycling directions. It could often steal focus from google maps. Very annoying and I nearly forgot about it until you mentioned it here.


In my place (Geneva, Switzerland), Google Maps stubbornly keeps suggesting for years the fastest route form my side of the town to the other through one of few bridges that is actually absolute no-go for public traffic, with tons of warning signs (sometimes some of them are obscured by buses but still hard to miss).

Needless to say, there is often some sucker going through there, and I have to admit I ended up there once too exactly because of Google Maps. No effort to correct it over the years, in one of the wealthiest and most important power/finance centers globally.

What you and parent describe happened to me too, maps are absolute blessing compared to what was there before but they are sometimes not that great ie in cities with a lot of traffic. Its easy to get used to something just working and start demanding perfection, when we are maybe 96% there.


Google maps has gotten worse in that it doesn’t remember that my default search is for driving, not walking.

For walking direction Google Maps is a disaster (More than road directions). 90% of footpaths simply don't exist on there and the ones listed on Google Maps are often completely wrong.

It’s kind of ironic that Google Maps is so bad at some things then. Walking & Cycling directions are especially bad - I get much better directions from OSM than I do from Google Maps.

For driving directions GMaps is much better. I presume that’s where the majority of their userbase is.


In google maps I had to switch back to car directions anyway, there are a number of places with awful bike paths running near the direction I'm travelling and the directions keep trying to force me onto them.

If only Google Maps actually addressed feedback from the app, sigh. I’ve been reporting the cycling routes in Sydney that constantly try sending you down the stairs to no effect.

It seems that the only way to get google to listen nowadays is to create a giant media buzz.


I have no issue with this. The bigger issue I have with Google Maps is that it makes zero effort to avoid dangerous routes. If two routes for a ~45 min drive are within 30 seconds of another, why would I want to risk death by taking the one with an extremely dangerous left turn through oncoming traffic? It makes zero sense.

Google Maps consistently provides cycling directions that go the wrong way on one-way streets.

This is unacceptable given that cycling the wrong way is illegal and dangerous.


Google fails pedestrians for the same reason it fails cyclists - it’s off road data is terrible & it’s not interested in fixing it.

In large cities, the roads are the only routes, so pedestrians can go OK with GMaps. Anywhere else & Google is prone to send you waltzing down a main road instead of the paths marked for actual pedestrian use in my experience. Same for cycling.

Thanks for trying, at least: You weren’t able to shift leviathan, but there’s no shame in that.


I'm surprised how bad Google Maps still is at things like this. No I don't want to take the theoretically slightly shorter road through several small neighborhood roads, let me simply follow the main road. Taking intersections into account it's often not even really faster in practice.

Where I live there's a disused pedestrian/cycling bridge over a river, with no paved road whatsoever leading to it on one side. There's a mud "road" there which I wouldn't risk driving on in anything other than a tank or a tractor (my farmer neighbor does drive his tractor there and across water, so there's that). The bridge has never been made for use by vehicles other than bicycles since its inception.

Nevertheless, when trying for navigation guidance to the street on the other bank of the river, many map applications insisted I could drive right across that disused bridge. Until recently, only OpenStreetMap and Google Maps presented the correct information. Apple Maps, TomTom, and Sygic all insisted I had to drive right across mud and the disused bridge (that would not be suitable for a car anyway).

These maps also reported there had been a street in the other part of the town where there was only barely a boundary between two fields.

I've been reporting this via Apple Maps feedback, complete with photos, for three years straight with no response whatsoever. I think one of my feedbacks just had been closed. Then a year ago Apple Maps got refreshed and their data sources got better, at least now they don't show roads where there are none.

Google Maps used to navigate me in the wrong directions on one-way streets months, if not years, after the changes had been made. They also seem to choose the shittiest routes ever when driving from any A to B, like the narrowest unmaintained countryside roads with steep gradients, and ETA seems to be drugs-induced fiction, like their information on speed limits and the actual speed attainable on those roads is waaaay off.

OSMAnd and OSM data in general is way better, I only wish it was recalculating the routes faster. Oh, and live traffic information.

I'm glad at least there's some movement to have some accountability about that clusterfuck. But then again, whom am I kidding, that won't move the needle in ad sales so nobody's giving a shit.


This reminds me of how in some ways online maps are far inferior to what the old road maps like the ones Rand McNally printed thirty years ago.

The Google map doesn’t have symbols to distinguish major roads from minor ones. For instance, in the US a printed map would typically have different symbols for free limited-access highway, toll limited-access highway, multilane divided but not limited-access highway, major two-lane road, minor two-lane road, local road, gravel road, and dirt road. Google has none of this; it just has lines of vaguely different width and color intensity.

So in the US I know that if the route has an Interstate highway I know what to expect. Typically a US highway is at least a major route, though you can’t count on it. If it’s a state highway, who knows. The map tells you little about the size or condition of these non-Interstate routes.

So if Google routes me down a non-Interstate route, sometimes I will look at the street view to gauge it. If it shows a big divided highway, I’m good. But sometimes it shows a two-lane road with no shoulders, multiple driveways, and hills blocking the view. Completely unacceptable for driving more than a few miles if there’s absolutely any alternative, yet Google will send you down these roads for two hundred miles if it thinks you’ll save ten minutes—-which you won’t the instant you get stuck behind some slow dump truck.

I don’t know this situation in Russia but years ago on a paper map in the US, that deadly route would have been shown as a minor road on a paper map, in it was on there at all, while the major, safer route would have been shown prominently.

I just marvel at how tech takes us forward in most ways but how the old tech had superior elements that simply don’t get replicated even decades later. (Another example is how old print maps showed rest areas and even distinguished them from simple no-restroom pull-offs. This information is not on Google at all.)

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