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Ok, fair enough. I was worried that there was some precise definition I had missed, but if that's not the case, I agree there's no point in debating it.


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I think it's pretty clear the given definition doesn't apply here. While I do enjoy debating semantics, I don't see that you actually have any argument here, so I'm just going to leave it at that.

Of course it doesn't mean that. And I wasn't arguing that. I wasn't arguing anything, just laying things out a bit more clearly since you didn't seem to have a solid grasp on reality.

The parent poster claims it's clear. I'm pointing out that there seem to be widely disparate and inconsistent opinions on the matter.

The best way to prove me wrong would be to provide a clear and unambiguous definition. Strangely, no one has done that.


Yes, I simplified something for the sake of a simple response.

No, that doesn't mean you can extrapolate ridiculous conclusions from the statement where the definition is well known.


Sure, not disputing that, only the definition expressed.

Mostly I'm just arguing that it's ambiguous. I don't have a strong opinion, but the person I was responding to did and it seems like a silly thing to be so adamant about.

It is possible I have not made it very clear. For the sake of the argument, I am ok with the definition presented by you.

That said, I am not sure what you disagree with. Please elaborate.


I'm not making the assertion, I am just trying to clarify the terminology.

Yes, it's not so clear to me either. But I'm willing to grant this point for the sake of the argument.

Thanks for the correction. You're right, and I can't tell you either, so I shouldn't really argue.

That's fine and fair, but it doesn't appear to be what the OP was arguing.

I disagree. I have made a clear delineation in the semantic content of my definitions, while you continue to attempt to confuse the issue.

I don’t think that definition necessarily is in conflict with my point.

uhh.. that's the dictionary definition sir. it's not open for your interpretation or dispute.

and it completely validates my statements. so i don't understand why you're continuing to stamp your feet about it.


This was a useful comment, assuming it is true, and even though it is a "debate on definitions" quibble.

That's fine with me. You've shifted the argument back to the overall case and refused to address my specific concern about the answer to question (i), so I'm just going to declare myself the winner of this branch, if that's OK with you.

No, it clearly isn't. You used a series of terms that I didn't that changed the meaning of what I said, then argued against that instead of what I actually said.

I am not disputing this, I am just saying that leaving the argument implicit might be confusing.

Are you really arguing with me about anything here or just flexing your sophistry chops? I said that to illustrate that, just as you didn't say that exactly, I didn't say what you're asserting either. I think we can put this to rest now.
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