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Not sure I agree with making them whole, look at Bernie Madoff. The only restitution is what the gov't can recover.

And for ICOs, fraud is fraud. If someone promises one thing and instead runs off with your money, the gov't will prosecute that.



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This long-term fraud is one of the better cases for which there are likely to be thousands of individuals who should be held criminally and financially responsible. It is clear that many financial institutions will be held responsible.

If the thousands or even perhaps tens of thousands of individuals involved are forced to pay restitution damages in addition to punitive damages, would this further the cause of justice? I am of the mindset that it will. Do the world's prosecutors and politicians have the balls and/or resources to do it?


Authorities should null and void the whole lot for public good.

This company should be desolved and all assets given to the 28 million victims.

So they can just return money to all the wronged people now? Or did they already? How about people outside of US?

I mean there would have to be some criteria for deciding who to return money to, but I'm sure they can come up with something less arbitrary than the original decision making that's hinted at in the article.


Money for the plaintiffs should be clawed back from the investors and all the senior management.

All the information they collected should be provably destroyed.


I would say sure let them have it and then make them pay all the stolen hundreds of billions back

I think there's something to be said that investors who recouped funds should have a portion allocated to the whistleblower program if that's how investors got their money back.

Seems more fair.


Then they should be dismantled as a company and parted off to pay for the damages they caused.

Take the money and release them anyways.

Honestly, I think we should just burn (the value of) the assets seized (after trial, appeal, &c, of course).

Yes, it would mean stepping up and funding things currently funded with proceeds from seizures, but it would remove significant incentive to overreach.


Either would be better than some gross private equity firm gobbling them up and sucking whatever meat remains off the bones.

The government, mostly. I guess the investors would sue and a judge would order them to pay or go to jail.

Your implied point is true though. I'd trust YCombinator to pay out their tokens as long as they don't go bankrupt.


The idea is that they would prove their solvency for the hypothetical event of everyone wanting their money back at the same time.

Oh good, so they should be able to do that now and give everyone there money back again. Thank goodness for decentralization! /s

Seriously I feel like we could resolve a lot of this if the orgs that seized assets, etc had to pay back everything, including legal fees, losses incurred due to seizure, and paid with interest charged at the same rate as late taxes and fines payments.

I suppose this was a good start. My heavy handed preference would be they use eminent domain after 3 strikes and liquidate the business to augment pay for the agencies that deal with fraud.

Offer them a partial amnesty: repatriate the funds at a 20% tax rate or so.

The goverment wins because 20% of $181bn is way more than 40% of nothing, and Apple wins because they get to use the money within the US.

Partial amnesties for repratriation have been been done before, most recently in Greece as far as I know.


What would that entail? Do you think their investors, who have profited off the harm they've done, should face any repercussions?

They should take whatever ill gotten earnings the cheaters have accumulate and give the majority to the aggrieved.

Those cheaters appear to have no conscience whatsoever about the whole affair.

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