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UK has almost 20x less guns per citizen, Sweden 5x less...

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I think Sweden and Germany have you matched or beat on guns per capita in the EU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_co...


Just a side note, because you’re from Norway, that may be surprising to some. The US is #1 with 1.01 guns per capita, and Norway is #9 with .31 guns per capita.

In any case, i don’t think the number of guns per capita explains the difference in gun crime rates between the two.

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Ha. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_c...

Norway has 31.3 guns per capita. Iceland has 30.3. The US has 112.6.


Gun's per capita seems to be very high on that list?

Top 3 (all per 100 persons)

1. Switzerland 26.3

2. Norway 28.8

3. Finland 32.4

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Sweden had a total of 360 shootings and 62 firearm homicides last year. In a country with 10 million people. That's roughly the size of North Carolina where they have an average of 1,300 shootings and ~530 firearm homicides. Their gun control seems to be pretty effective!

Per wikipedia[0], the US has an estimated 120 guns per 100 citizens. Switzerland, the number is 27.6, Israel the number is 6.7.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...


Intresting note:

Nordic countries (Finland, Norway) and Swizerland rank very high in gun ownership among OECD countries. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Gun-own...


Come and try the UK for a bit. People do not have guns.

If you like, take the time to go through the data and understand why it does not actually fit the reality of the situation here. Don't expect other people to disprove shit data.


It's weird to see a bunch of people trying to refute this very clear point: we don't have many guns and so we have very little gun crime.

  gun murders per million people UK:  0.236
  gun murders per million people US: 32.57

I think you figures are a bit off for gun deaths. The ones here are 10.84 per 100,000 in the US, 0.24 in the UK. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-death...

Canada definitely does not have more guns per capita. USA is the highest in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...

This comment made me curious so I looked up some data (sorry for the formatting, I don't know how to do it better):

Guns per 100 people - Finland 2017: 32.49 (total of 1.79 million) [1] - US 2017: 120.5 (total of 393 million) [2]

All gun deaths - Finland 2017: 138 [1] (~77.09 deaths per million guns) - US 2017: 39773 [2] (~101.2 deaths per million guns) <- A bit higher

Mean death rate per million in mass shootings, 2009-2015 [3] - Finland: 0.132 <- A bit higher - US: 0.089

[1] https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/finland [2] https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states [3] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shoo...

The data seems to suggest that the number of deaths and mass shootings sort of tracks with the number of guns, and that Finland isn't particularly better off "per gun".


From [0]:

> More than 60 people died in shootings last year in Sweden, the highest figure on record.

This may be a lot of people for Sweden (~0.5 death per ~100K people); it's not a lot of people in the general sense. Per [1], 19,000 people died from gun homicides in the US in the same year (5 per 100K people). Not exactly a sign that Sweden's system is failing relative to the US.

[0] https://apnews.com/article/sweden-shooting-explosion-deadlie...

[1] https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2023/cdc-provisional-data-gun-s...


Germany has 30 guns per 100 people. The US has 88.

It's the rate of violence that is dramatically different, and not nearly as much the per capita gun ownership rate.


In USA there are 120.5 guns/100 people AND 3.4 gun murders/100000 people In Canada there are 34.7 guns/100 people AND 0.6 gun murders/100000 people In France there are 19.6 guns/100 people AND 0.4 gun murders/100000 people In Germany there are 19.6 guns/100 people AND 0.1 gun murders/100000 people In Italy there are 14.4 guns/100 people AND 0.3 gun murders/100000 people In England+Wales there are 4.6 guns/100 people AND 0 gun murders/100000 people

Sources: Small Arms Survey, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.·Ownership rates are for 2017. Murder rates for the U.S., Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Australia and Spain are from 2016; otherwise, the latest available rates are used.


Any citation on fewer handguns, fewer deaths? Violent crime actually increased in the UK after they banned guns despite near simultaneous expansion of police funding.

These issues aren’t as simple as you might imply. The demographics of Sweden are different than those of Chicago or Matamoros. Conroe, Texas has very high gun ownership and very low violent crime. New York has very low gun ownership and relatively low violent crime.

Cancer death rates are higher in the UK compared to the US despite “universal” healthcare in the UK.

It’s naïve to draw simplistic cause-effect conclusions and it’s intellectually dishonest to suggest that policies that work in Lisbon would work at a similar level of success in Los Angeles.

To be clear, I am all for decriminalization of drugs, however suggesting that policies will have similar effects in different regions or countries is to ignore the thousands of other variables at play.


Canada (34.7) has more guns per capita than CH:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...

Lower firearm deaths as well (2.64 vs 1.94):

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r...


We have 300 million guns in the USA, of course there are going to be less shootings in the UK vs the USA.

The article mentions an excellent example of gun control reducing crime (Australia http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/19/world/us-australia-gun-con... ). UK has way less murders: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-King...
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