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loceng · 2018-05-03 17:38:16+00:00

There will be optimal designs based on other design factors that need to be taken into account.

staunton | karma 1066 | avg karma 1.51 · | 2023-07-02 17:13:53

Why should it produce those designs? Are they in any known sense optimal?

microcolonel | karma 4436 | avg karma 0.84 · | 2020-08-27 17:18:56+00:00

And even those things need to be assessed in the context of a specific design.

pcwalton | karma 42908 | avg karma 5.48 · | 2015-07-20 16:41:43+00:00

Why is that an important design criterion?

Memosyne | karma 989 | avg karma 4.78 · | 2018-10-22 14:38:34

Why do some designers think this is optimal?

mistermann | karma 4634 | avg karma 0.56 · | 2022-02-23 16:38:06

Maybe someone will eventually take this into consideration in their design.

callalex | karma 5040 | avg karma 2.64 · | 2023-08-11 18:47:42

Why do they have to be designed?

jstx1 | karma 9274 | avg karma 4.06 · | 2023-02-14 01:07:48

Design implies some kind of planning. I think it's a result of different companies making decisions that optimize for the short term.

leetcrew | karma 7947 | avg karma 2.01 · | 2020-01-24 14:28:44+00:00

I'm not saying current designs are optimal. rather, the current designs already look so similar to each other that "looking different" can't be a valid reason for not optimizing them further. I already can't tell many of them apart unless I'm already familiar with the model.

scim-knox-twox | karma 167 | avg karma 1.01 · | 2022-02-16 04:05:57

Then it should be considered by designer.

x0hm | karma 65 | avg karma 0.86 · | 2019-07-08 20:33:03+00:00

Design considerations.

ta1243 | karma 2760 | avg karma 2.44 · | 2023-09-18 03:47:30

The fact there are so many options shows the fundamental design problem.

maps7 | karma 350 | avg karma 1.13 · | 2020-08-27 10:14:48

- No design is ever perfect

- There are many correct ways to do things

- It's all about constraints and trade offs

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BlueTemplar | karma 2807 | avg karma 0.63 · | 2020-02-22 09:20:09

Indeed. Especially since design choices might have real world consequences.

buster | karma 4275 | avg karma 2.6 · | 2010-04-20 16:04:35+00:00

I'd say the only limiting factor is what designers can imagine.

antiismist | karma 462 | avg karma 2.18 · | 2008-10-07 14:08:27

Yup. A big part of good design is making tradeoffs, which isn't really addressed hear.

anthonyshort | karma 226 | avg karma 6.65 · | 2019-05-15 23:04:37+00:00

Every design is meant to be used. The amount of space needed is relative to the problem.

thfuran | karma 7179 | avg karma 1.96 · | 2016-10-28 20:27:29

Yeah, determining the requirements of a product you are attempting to produce ought not to be left to the end of design.

mgunes | karma 5092 | avg karma 6.96 · | 2011-02-27 19:49:04+00:00

All three are very deliberately designed the way they are, and function well thanks to those designs. Good design is often "as little design as possible", as Dieter Rams' final principle for good design goes; avoiding overdesign is a merit, not a deficiency.

yourself92 | karma 78 | avg karma 6.0 · | 2021-03-04 19:33:07

Design considerations