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What's crazy about that is that some of those 6 month systems, which were designed at the time to be a throwaway, just to get by, are still in production 26 years later and causing all kinds of problems.


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I'd bet that some of the systems that were 20 years old in 1992 are still running.

how old were the systems? And have you ever had to maintain systems that were that many years old that weren't a nightmare to maintain and cost a fortune to fix?

Agreed. It ran for 30 years and hasn't had problems (other than the radio interference issue). Anything that has lasted for 30 years has had nearly every bug worked out or worked around. The only things that survive for 30 years are systems that do the job.

It's interesting how stubbornly reliable old things stick around, despite popular negative opinion of those reliable old things.

interesting. I guess extremely old systems are a different beast than just old ones.

it's also probably very different whether the system has been continuously adjusted and fixed for 40 years, or if it's just stayed there.


I am almost afraid to ask: is it still in operation? Some of these systems are kept for surprisingly long time (don't fix if it ain't broken)

Sounds like their system works. If that 486 hardware lasted 20 years already, seems like there's a pretty good chance it'll outlast most of the modern stuff it would be replaced with.

I did the same for a CQRS system. It's been humming away in production for at least 6 years. I've been surprised at how reliable it's been, 0 patch bugs.

How many of those sold six years ago are still operating?

My guess is many have had something go wrong to the point that they're no longer used.


Isn't even more impressive how much old stuff still runs almost 2 decades later?

Ten years, yep, sounds about right. We're finally getting rid of our last few RHEL6 boxes. It got pretty long in the tooth at the end there, but it never gave me any hassle.

One thing that shouldn't be discounted is survivorship bias. The machines from the 1960s that broke early on aren't around anymore. The only machines from the 1960s that are left are those which last a long time.

It's not about the manufacture date, its about how long that model has been commercially available so fixes can be found/made to any issues.

> … I'm surprised to some degree that it's still running 13 years later …

Nothing lasts longer than a temporary fix.


"These things, they’re basically bulletproof. You can put 15,000 hours on it and if something breaks you can just replace it.”

Amen.

It is true that there is always someone saying "Things were better back then."

But that doesn't always mean that they are wrong.


And yet, for all that, they've worked for 30 years.

At Mark Williams, we had a z8000 prototype, still in pieces, sitting on a lab table, which was up for at least 180 days. It well may have been longer.

It's always impressive to see somebody try to build something that lasts, and succeed. It's even rarer to see such a thing in consumer electronics.

I'm currently sitting in the same room as a Bryston amplifier that, according to it's date code, was manufactured in late 1998. That means it's almost 21 years old and just 1 year off warranty. It's been switched on for most of those 21 years but still works great and has never been serviced. Even more surprisingly, it's not obsolete. It's currently hooked up to a 2018 receiver.

I'd love to see somebody do tear-downs of devices like this and explain how their construction takes longevity into consideration without resorting to the same extremes as NASA (e.g. X-raying caps).


Looks cool, it's interesting that it's still a working system.
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