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Ditched companies and products who don't respect the environment a while back... Just preparing for the future where the others won't have the choice anyways :)

I understand the environmental reasons for a company to do this, it’s very important and would you happen to know the business incentives for them doing this?

Here's a thought: maybe like 10 of the previous 13 offerings, the reason has less to do with the company and more to do with the environment.

My office just got rid of these and I've been grumpy about it. I didn't consider the environmental angle though, assumed it was just corporate greed.

> the purpose was to show that companies like Dow can’t be taken at their word when it comes to environmental initiatives

Did we really need this example to show it? Shoes?

Nestle is trying to buy all the water, maybe that would be a better place to focus.


Is that because they provided benefits at the expense of being a sustainable business?

Wouldn't the biggest impact for the environment be the company ceasing production altogether? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here, just that even a company with highly ethically sourced items is still supplementary consumption and productions.

There is literally no reason you can justify this being good for the environment. It may make business sense but it's still a crime against the planet.

Given the current environmental situation, that sounds like a good reason to dismantle the entire industry.

Who said they cared about the environment? They wanted lower fuel costs to save themselves money, which makes perfect sense.

If they were eco-friendly it certainly would be inconvenient for their marketing strategy.

Almost certainly due to different regulatory regimes.

One would have accounted for the pollution and costs and the other wouldn't basically instructing the corporation to be wasteful and pollute unless it wanted to lose money by doing so.


Cynical take: Greenwashing.

They don't mention cobalt shortage at all. Making it sound like the environment is their primary goal.


The amount of pollution / trash this company produces seems pretty counter to their mission statement.

I sort of wonder this too. The logic seems simple. Companies are attacked for being bad for the environment. In ways such as fossil fuel consumption it is impossible for them to change. However, in ways such as making packaging slightly lighter or of different materials it is easy to change. Companies support existing environmental groups fixated on fringe issues as a way of appearing progressive while the main issue (which would be costly) goes on touch.

As a resident of California who has seen plastic straws be banned (which are highly visible but small) while millions of other types of waste are allowed I suspect it is the case.


I agree the reason given is marketing, but that's 2024 for you.

I think that only approving of environmental things if they cost you is a bit perverse, though. This is lower-hanging fruit. Why not take it?


It explicitly lists this as a point when providing examples of incorrect reasons "why industry is going green on the quiet."

> It refused, not because the innovations were trade secrets, or because it risked losing a cost-saving competitive edge (due to cheap electricity prices, the cost saving amounted to less than 1%)


> I'd love to be able to buy something that was exactly like VTI but scrubbed clean of oil, coal, gas, and other sources of environmental damage.

Show me one large company that doesn't do environmental damage?


so they basically just cancelled out any carbon footprint reduction their company does
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