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Sales of new cars it is, so a decade after said countries will be largely free of fossil fuel cars.

The love affair with the SUV and Stations will have to end unless technology improves greatly. It sucks but it's the price we have to pay.

Norway's ban starts in 2025:

https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/nor...

The Netherlands in 2030:

https://electrek.co/2017/10/10/netherlands-dutch-ban-petrol-...

France a decade later in 2040:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/06/france-ban-...



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A few fairly large economies are planning to ban sales of new fossil fuel powered cars by 2030 and a bunch more by 2040. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehic...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehic...

2025: Norway

2030 EU: Sweden, Netherlands, Ireland, Denmark

2030 Non-EU: India, Israel

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If you take a lifetime of 20+ years for new vehicles into account, and you want to be phased out by 2050, you need to ban in 2030. Very simple. Maybe you don't need a full ban, maybe strong incentives suffice (see China). But full bans have been enacted in law in very substantial markets already.


Interesting. Besides the bike. I've read reports that Norway and Denmark want to ban gas and diesel cars by 2025. http://www.renewablesinternational.net/will-norway-ban-gas-d... What do you think about this?


Some countries and cities in Europe have put the ban in place well before 2035:

https://greencitizen.com/news/amsterdam-announces-a-ban-on-f...

Amsterdam by 2030, and the Netherlands as a whole is trying to do it by 2025.

edit: Fascinating to me that pointing out basic facts is worthy of downvoting.


Yeah.. The Netherlands will ban it 15 years before France.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/18/netherlan...

(Passed the lower house, just needs to pass through the Dutch senate to become legally binding)


There are alternatives to fossil fuels besides EV.

Also, fossil fuel based cars will not be banned. The goal only applies to new cars. In Norway, people on average keep their cars for 15 years or so, due to the high cost of owning a car (cars are taxed heavily here).


I'm taking about banning ICE sales of light vehicles, and yes, I do expect such sales to be near zero in Norway in about 4 years -- with or without a ban.

I'm not alone: https://electrek.co/2021/09/23/norway-bans-gas-cars-in-2025-...


There is a long list of countries that decided to ban fossil fuel burning cars in the upcoming years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_banning_foss...

Personally, I don't think the ban will ever be enforced. It will create the right incentives and most car sales will be electric, but there will still be fossil fuel burning car sales.


The EU banned new fossil-fuel cars from 2035. Probably not quite soon enough to make "fossil fuels all but obsolete except in a few backwater places".

Although, I'd guess not many people in EU will be enthusiastic to a buy a fuel car in 2030. Second hand value might be low. So the ban might have a front running effect.


Yes, the EU will forbid the sale of new petrol vehicles starting in 2035.

EU will ban the sale of gasoline fueled cars in 2035, there is plenty of time.

It's not that petrol cars will be forbidden but buying a new non zero emission car in 2025 will be financially not beneficial, according to Norwegian press.

99% of the electricity in Norway comes from hydro power plants, it's a huge exporter of gas and oil and it's rich.

That makes it easier to make such a progressive decision but congrats for setting the first deadline.


Bans have been proposed in Holland from 2025 (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2016/03/only-electric-...) and Norway (http://electrek.co/2016/06/03/norway-gasoline-powered-car-ba...), but it's very early days -- these are only kite-flying exercises, not serious attempts at legislation.

Articles like these just makes this wikipedia page even more exciting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_banning_foss...

Are you thinking Norway hitting 2025 is unrealistic being only 7 years away? A video from last year states electric car sales there are already near 30% of new car sales:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSjYra7cYqY


It's already happening in Germany and E.U. IIRC Germany set 2030 for getting rid of all vehicles with combustion motor and E.U. set the date around 2050.

This is happening in Norway, where sales of gas-powered are banned starting in 2025, and where sales of such cars have already fallen dramatically.

Some people here support California's 2035 on gas cars. I oppose such drastic restrictions on consumers.


California banned new combustion vehicle sales after 2035, 2030 for the UK. Other jurisdictions are between now and 2050. The transition to EV powertrains will be mandatory to continue selling automobiles in the future (versus buying compliance credits from those building and selling EVs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehic...


Norway is planning to phase out petrol/diesel cars by 2025 https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/norway-phase-out...

I suspect this is where we are headed.

However an EV car takes the same space up as an ICE car. EV cars do not solve congestion and if you move from a policy of maximising traffic flow to maximising road capacity you very quickly realise that the fundemental problem is the private car. So the conclusion is to ban the car https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/dec/09/car-free-city...

I believe Copenhagen now has only 9% of people commuting by private car and 62% by bicycle.

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