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As far as i know, the publishers keep the bulk of the fees


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Doesn’t the publisher pay them a flat fee?

They have to pay license fees to the publishers. That's where most of the money is going.

Aren't they just charging the price that they can get away with? The publishing house and authors get the part of the money that would normally go to the printers, loggers, shippers, etc.

Yet the publishers get paid exorbitant fees for access to work they didn't pay for.

But the key point is that they're not paid by the publisher for the publication, they're paid to produce the publication by others. The publisher is just gets it for (basically) free and then profits off the fees.

Do you know how you and the publisher are compensated in this situation? I'm assuming there is some sort of royalty stream coming back to you? (I'm not asking for details, just generalities).

I'll add more details about what are the fee and that the author is keeping 80%.

I'm not "giving up 85% of my money in perpetuity".

Yes, authors get paid a royalty of 6%-25% of the cover price. However, the biggest cut of the cover price goes to the distribution/retail chain. And when I say "biggest" I mean "50-70%".

In general, the publisher spends about the same amount as the author royalties on production and manufacturing overheads. And reaps the same again as their profit share.

Between us my publishers and I typically end up getting 20-30% of the price of each book sold, with another 10% going on production costs. Amazon then take 50-70%. They may choose to pass half their share on to the consumers, but they're still trousering more profit than my publisher and I get, combined.


Remember their are also publishers in the mix. Hopefully all of the payments for out-of-print books are going to the authors only.

How much of those 50$ get taken by the publishers, managers, etc.? I'd much rather pay for stuff if i knew it actually went to the person who wrote it.

Isn’t that on the publisher more than the person?

Uh, no. You're paying for middlemen (printing, marketing, big publishing, etc) . Authors typically take 10 to 15%, either of royalties or net profit.

Sure, if the publisher actually provides that. They don’t. (Or rather, they farm it out to volunteer labor while collecting a fee anyway.)

Any idea how this affects payouts to authors?

Here's a typical breakdown, from 2010: "Out of that gross revenue, the publisher pays about $3.25 to print, store and ship the book, including unsold copies returned to the publisher by booksellers."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/business/media/01ebooks.ht... (and the graphic: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/03/01/business/01eboo... )


Not true. See my comment above. The filing shows a payment to another company that he owns, not to him. These could just be publishing costs.

It's not exactly 98% of the profits; but, it still seems egregious.

From what I've noticed, royalties are generally about 10% of gross against advances (if any), or $1 on a $10 soft-cover. The publisher spends money on the acquisition, editing, printing, and distribution; in brick-and-morter land, this isn't cheap. Remember that the store needs to make a couple of bucks, too.

Additionally, major retailers include a buyback clause—if the book doesn't sell, the retailer can sell up to something like 15% of the initial purchase order back to the publisher. The publisher often forwards your share of that burden into your royalty payment schedule.

Though, ultimately, while authors might get screwed financially in a lot of ways, publishing does, as a consumer, keep a lot of crap out of your purchasing decisions. Publishers (on the whole) do provide a lot of value to you: are you going to buy Gruen's AWESOME guide to Ruby or The Ruby Programming Language from O'Reilly Publishing with its venerable woodcut cover treatment?

If you're trying to get your work out there (which is why people write in the first place) you're probably willing to take the traditional publishing deal.


They gain money for the author.

The author probably got paid an amount for writing the book and then hands all rights over to the publisher. The publisher then prints it forever and takes the income from that. This is a guess based on working with other publishers though. Individual companies may differ.
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