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$75k income, increasing at 1% a year, saving 15% each year, investing at 7% average returns over a 40 year career would give you $101k in retirement.

That doesn’t seem unreasonable.



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No, people are too lazy. Making $25k a year, and saving 15% ($3,750) over 45 years at 7% return is $1M.

You also don’t need a 401k. You can do a traditional or Roth IRA.


$1.9M assuming you start at 25 with 15% on a $100K salary ($15K stashed away) and retire at 65. I'm assuming real returns of 5%.

You have a point. That is not even safe retirement money today and definitely not in 40 years time.


This is not a good way to calculate it because it ignores volatility of the investment. There are decades of publications in the topic of sequence of returns and the impact on retirement.

$25,000 is likely a little too low but $70,000 is way, way too high.

Most people who've done research agree that something like $25,000 to $35,000 a year from $1,000,000 is reasonable for someone retiring extremely young.


Yeah I guess this is fine as long as you account for it. Starting with $800k, $40k expenses, 2% inflation and 5% return, retiring at 35 you end deplete your money at 67, but starting with $1M takes you to 83.

Actually that would be only $15k/year or $1.25k/mo towards retirement.

And $125,000 a year salary at 4.25% for 30 years is almost $450,000 today. It wouldn't be a struggle retiring in 10 years if you made that today.

A single inflation rate paints an inaccurate picture when the difference between income and living expenses increases are that dissimilar.


$1,500 invested yearly, at 7% interest, generates ~60k in 20 years. So even at your inflated income estimates, this is definitely worth thinking about.

I don't understand. If your income is that high and you're saving 25% after 30 years you should have more than enough to retire?

What rate are you modeling your investment returns at?


If you're relatively successful, this isn't too far off from reality. If for example you make $75k after taxes, your living expenses is $25k, and you invest the rest with a 8% return, you can retire after 10 years and have a safe withdraw rate of 3.5% (equaling 25k) in perpetuity.

I don't think a 7% interest rate is unreasonable. One of the advantages of planning on early retirement means that you can take on a lot more risk with your investments, eg. putting everything into stocks (which isn't really "gambling" -- over long periods they've only ever gone up). If the markets are totally hammered the year you want to retire, no problem -- just keep working a few more years until they recover. And saving $75k a year is also quite reasonable if you have a high income, like a doctor or well-compensated engineer. I’m only a couple years into my career and am supporting my wife and kid, but we’re on track to save a bit more than that this year.

Of course, the lifestyle choices we make aren’t for everyone, and that’s fine. But they’re also not totally crazy. We can save that much still live about as well as the median American, and a lot better than the median human.


$700k to $1.1m in 10 years is about 4.6% annualized...that doesn’t seem that crazy.

I can agree with that, though in part it obviously depends on how high your income is, and how you invest and compound the money you have made.

If you're making $25k a year it will be a lot harder and take much much longer to retire than for someone making $150k a year.


8% is very generous, I thought 7% was the commonly used figure which gets you 800k in 40 years. When you acount for inflation that is not anything you should consider retiring on.

At a 7% return you'd still need about $1.5 mil. And that's assuming that your hopefully more conservative investments in retirement earn 7% a year and over that 20 year span there is not a crash... This includes about 3.5% per year for inflation.

It's not silly for everyone. You can retire way quicker on $300-400k than you can with $120-160k. Not everyone wants to work an extra 10-30 years.

> That is barely enough money to retire comfortably the rest of your life.

Barely? Using the "safe withdrawal rate" of 4% after inflation if the money is invested, one could spend 320k a year and probably not run out.


Most folks don’t plan to live purely on the returns.

If the typical person works for 50 years, and you saved/invested 50% of your income for 25 years, then you’ve effectively matched both the means and the cost of living of someone making half your salary.

As a software developer, it isn’t unrealistic to plan to retire around 45, for example.


Well, given compounding interest and inflation, is this so out of the question?

At least I keep hearing I need a net worth > 1 million to retire. If one puts away 10-15k a year for just 30 years, plus interest that would get you there comfortably.


More than likely OP suffers from lifestyle inflation. You should definitely be able to retire with that much money.
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