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In this context the ecocide caused by the construction of windturbines is especially alarming


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It's easy to believe. The massive ecological destruction caused by the oil and gas industry is well documented. Whatever downsides there are to wind mills, pale in comparison to that.

Funny how people are suddenly concerned with other species when a wind turbine is placed near their home. But when an out-of-sight coal plant belches out tons of pollutants which affect thousands of species, that concern seems to vanish. Quaint.

Yeah, I'm just reading up on the subject. Apparently a badly placed wind farm can have knock-on effects on the whole food web. We quickly reach a "never do anything" impasse though.

Wind turbines are destroying the landscape

I'm genuinely curious, why so?

I don't live near any turbines but I don't see from my outside view why it would be a problem?


Am I the only one that's kinda off put or frankly disgusted by the thought of ruining our nature by peppering it with giant wind turbines? At what point does it stop?

These things are awfully loud. I personally also find them ugly, bit to each their own on that. But the noise, i genuinely think it is probably unhealthy to live near Wind turbines.

Edit since I just remembered - I think they are also very disruptive for the ecosystem depending on where they are built.


The short answer is: no.

Any windmill impact from changing wind patterns or reducing wind power is radically less than eg building homes (given we build millions of homes annually), or simply driving vehicles (of any sort, given the numbers of vehicles globally).

You could never build enough windmills to cause a problem. The only real environmental concerns are killing animals (insects?), and construction / manufacturing related.


> Windmills are noisy, and tend to be in very exposed environments.

Loss of blade accidents and tower failures have been known to occur, also.


"As for resource consumption and environmental impacts, the direct effects of wind turbines — killing birds and bats, sinking concrete foundations deep into wild lands — is bad enough. But out of sight and out of mind is the dirty pollution generated in Inner Mongolia by the mining of rare-earth metals for the magnets in the turbines. This generates toxic and radioactive waste on an epic scale, which is why the phrase ‘clean energy’ is such a sick joke and ministers should be ashamed every time it passes their lips."

Do you have a citation for that? The link you provides says nothing about environmental harm from "slowing down the wind".

Avoid windmills too.

> wind turbine blade disposal

How do the problems of that that stack up compared to disposal of any other industrial infrastructure?


Wind turbines aren't built in virgin forests either. They're generally in farmland, which is pretty well ecologically destroyed already.

Wind turbines aren’t "safe"[1]. Relative safety matters.

[1]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2013/09/29/forget-ea...


Apparently about a dozen people a year are killed installing or maintaining wind turbines, however the post in question was referring to byproducts of refining the rare earths ultimately used for the magnets in the generators.

http://www.caithnesswindfarms.co.uk/accidents.pdf

(Solar is fairly deadly too. Mostly installers falling from roofs.)


Probably the ugliness. I've seen great landscapes being heavily damaged by wind turbines.

Based on what evidence?

Have you ever actually been around these turbines IRL? I have and they are absolutely disruptive of the environment.


That's why windmills are so carcinogenic. ;(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_syndrome

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