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YeahSureWhyNot · 2019-08-13 15:45:49

while thats a different tragedy resulted from incompetence of soviet assigned government, no, I am referring to what they did in 3 different countries. 1-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_January 2-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_9_tragedy 3-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Events_(Lithuania)

tome | karma 8885 | avg karma 1.75 · | 2019-01-21 13:51:53+00:00

... and therefore it's the Soviets who are responsible for the resulting horrific crimes? Or did you have a different point?

dawidw | karma 121 | avg karma 0.8 · | 2020-09-10 09:13:45

> Incompetence happened a great deal in the Soviet Union. It mentally killed people to see it everyday.

Wasn't it result of communism? At least that's my impression after reading Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's "The Gulag Archipelago".

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Spooky23 | karma 41581 | avg karma 2.72 · | 2021-05-13 20:30:50

Yes. The Stalinist Soviet regime were innocent, peace-living victims.

krzat | karma 475 | avg karma 1.89 · | 2018-01-30 20:33:15

It is tragic but I think Stalin is responsible for most of these deaths.

M8 | karma 405 | avg karma 1.23 · | 2015-05-20 08:03:32

No, and there were literally billions of them. And also soviet leaders were eating babies. Alive.

scarmig | karma 20694 | avg karma 4.92 · | 2014-02-13 23:05:49+00:00

No. Lots of people died in the Gulag, but not enough to switch these numbers.

Most Soviet deaths occurred as a result of (deliberately engineered) famine.

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mirimir | karma 16819 | avg karma 1.63 · | 2020-03-07 05:12:58+00:00

Yes, it's not at all unique. Just a big player.

But Stalin killed more, through what might be considered domestic sanctions.

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BugBrother | karma 348 | avg karma 0.88 · | 2014-09-30 07:45:42+00:00

Yet another misrepresentation of what I wrote.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8372340

Original link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_r...

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BurningFrog | karma 23526 | avg karma 2.88 · | 2023-04-04 09:28:50

The Soviet Union killed between 20-60 million of its own people.

Did Tsarist Russia really do anything that competes with that?

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thx-2718 | karma 325 | avg karma 2.06 · | 2023-06-03 13:34:50

Also not to be forgotten the USSR lost a lot people beyond just through the war:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%93...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

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swombat | karma 44155 | avg karma 6.85 · | 2010-04-10 12:59:51+00:00

With the notable difference that, as far as we know, this particular massacre wasn't ordered by a Russian dictator...

As far as we know...

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blub | karma 8765 | avg karma 2.5 · | 2016-04-26 09:54:05

Ever heard of a thing called the Holocaust? Or the purges in the Soviet Union or any other ex-communist country?

atemerev | karma 7052 | avg karma 2.48 · | 2019-05-22 16:08:49+00:00

Yes, that’s right; it is about the Stalin era, though. My personal experience with the USSR was limited to the end of 1980s, where things were much softer compared to those horrors.

nradov | karma 36463 | avg karma 2.08 · | 2023-08-17 04:42:57

The USSR perpetuated the Great Purge and the Holodomor, which together killed approximately 5M people (estimates vary). This is a matter of historical fact, not just belief.

euroderf | karma 2838 | avg karma 0.82 · | 2021-12-17 07:12:49

Wondering, are there examples of similar atrocities in earlier Russian military history, or are these uniquely Soviet ?

refurb | karma 27208 | avg karma 1.53 · | 2021-11-20 19:13:31

The USSR literally lined people up by the millions and shot them in the head in industrial fashion.

Not even close to comparable.

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ch4s3 | karma 8583 | avg karma 2.43 · | 2022-10-19 18:40:54

I replied above[1], to paraphrase yes. The USSR was founded and build on brutality, and sustained on brutality and repression long after Stalin was gone. If there is such a thing as evil, the government of the USSR was truly and deeply evil.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33269000

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wkat4242 | karma 10400 | avg karma 2.0 · | 2024-02-08 18:06:34

Yes but I'm talking more about the creepiness of the stalking of women, mass rape, personally torturing and killing for pleasure etc. It sounds a bit far-fetched. It may well be true but there was just so much history rewriting going on.

I know all the soviet leaders of that era were mass murderers but usually by delegation only.

Edit: I read up on it and it does indeed seem true. Wow..

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tpm | karma 778 | avg karma 1.1 · | 2018-01-14 18:47:09+00:00

While for people who died in the Holodomor (etc) life wasn't at all, because the communist regime killed them by the millions. Do you see the difference? Or are you trying to derail the conversation by using whataboutism, a proven Soviet propaganda tactic?