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america's global presence in commerce is the backbone of american finance's global domination. nearly every country in world has a mcdonalds, starbucks, microsoft, ford and gm and the hundreds of thousands of enterprises ranging from family businesses to faceless behemoths and they all need FX and cash management and funding and commodity hedging and capital raising and securitization and nearly everything else.

which other country extends its commercial presence like this? the germans and the european banks (because german companies fund in euros) come to mind - coba, bnp, credit ag - but (1) german industry is not quite as big as the american industry (2) even the american supermarket-style banks like citi compete aggressively in this space.



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Fair enough, I'm a lot less familiar with that side. But don't Deutsche Bank, UBS, and Credit Suisse have a large US presence?

And Credit Suisse although it's not on the US.

They're one of the world's largest banks with presence globally. Not only do they have presence in US financial centres they have US subsidiaries.

Plenty of places to send the bailiffs to, or whatever the US equivalent is.


American banks. Of course.

The topic is investment banking (not retail banking) but both RBC and TD Bank entered the US market by buying US banks. And this is exactly what I said European investment banks tried to do.

>Europe also runs a trade surplus with the U.S. so it's unclear where this macro trend you think exists comes from either.

Financial services are only a small part of the economy compared to e.g. raw materials. But I'm not an economist/accountant so I don't know where it comes out in the wash as regards trade surplus when a UK subsidiary of a US company makes money in the UK.


Deutsche Bank comes to mind.

What most people in this thread are talking about is retail banking. Retail banking in the US lags far behind the EU in terms in technology and security. However, retail banking is only accounts for about 25% of total profits when compared to commercial and investment banking. This is where US banks have consistently beaten the competition. Especially since Brexit which has destabilized London as the financial hub of Europe

Americans are very comfortable in extrapolating the US experience as a global reality.

Here they’re talking about the Wild West of small banks that they have.


To be fair that's not all on the back of the UK, finance is an international business in the UK.

There's a ton of people in those countries offering financial services that consist of triangulating operations inside and out of the country.

Within the crazy insanity that's the system, it does end up working out somehow.


No, that's major US finance companies...

Compared to Germany, US banking consumer services are in the stone age. Investor level services on the the other hand... We lead the world in inventing ever new investment types.

As a German (not a banker), I'm very curious what country you're from..

Per https://www.fsb.org/wp-content/uploads/P211122.pdf the only Tier 4 bank is US based but _plenty_ of other banks around the world are systemically important. Is the US overly represented? Sure. But I’d also imagine they are more interconnected to the global financial system than other world wide banks

Banking is largely globally networked as well, at least in the West.

The market is dominated by large commercial banks in US, but banking here is still so very backwards even compared to Europe.

The number of banks in the US seems perfectly normal. Germany has ~1500 for 80 million inhabitants, the US has ~4800 for 300 million.

How did they take over the world. We barely see one US bank here in Romania for example, and its coming just happened recently.

With the economical crisis starting from US and NSA scandal(s), I'd never trust a US bank over a EU one.


What other big banks does Europe have that might stick around? Having all major banks US based would be a huge issue for Europe.
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