And I’m sure that everyone who currently uses e-cigarettes in those countries will simply shake their heads and give up the habit. Which history clearly shows is what happens when we ban a substance. Right?
Yeah....
Not only is there vanishingly little “evidence” that e-cigarettes are harmful to health, most of the evidence we do have is for knock-off street THC or cheap Chinese juice. That’s hardly a logical reason to ban e-cigarettes entirely. Especially given the fact that many of these people will go back to smoking real cigarettes.
I was one of those people who was pretty well convinced that e-cigarettes and cigarettes were both about equal as far as danger due to the nicotine. E-cigarettes delivering on average throughout the day more nicotine than cigarettes. And cigarettes, delivering ash.
A few years ago I read a convincing article to the contrary from the NHS. Detailing how the most dangerous carcinogens came from combustion of tobacco.
Smoking related signalling has been a train wreck for a decade or more now, so of course after this article came out the very same NHS started talking about banning certain types of e-cigarettes. I don't know what's going on anymore. It doesn't help that there are zealots that spam information about e-cigarettes being perfectly safe, and charities that spam information about cigarettes killing you and everyone around you so donate right away.
The internet has utterly failed us on data about smoking. If anyone knows what's actually going on, then they are lost in a sea of other people that are doing their best to shout over one another.
A ban would be devastating for those using ecigs to quit nicotine. I love the fruity flavors, and purposely started with those when I switched to ecigs. I figured that would help me get rid of the desire for tobacco flavor, and it worked so well that just the smell regular cigarettes would make me nauseous. It was a huge factor in my quitting successfully.
The most popular flavored cigarette, menthol, wasn't banned. Cigarettes in flavors other than menthol never had the type of popularity vapes do now. Making e-juice is already a hobby/cottage industry and banning it won't make it go away.
How unbelievably stupid. After years of progress, we've finally gotten to the point where e-cigarettes are not only a much less disgusting alternative to smoking, but they're also equally satisfying and more convenient. If they end up being banned completely, it will just push the market underground and we'll go back to homemade/cheap Chinese mods and questionable quality juices.
There should be regulation and safety testing, not outright bans.
While I'm both an avid user of e-cigarettes and I'm not eager to use them for harm minimization, their banning would be deeply concerning to me. It has not been demonstrated that they are a health risk, and it is vanishingly unlikely their health profile is anywhere near that of combusted tobacco, so banning it would amount to a dogmatic fear of nicotine.
Which again, might not be so terrible given how little is understood about the drug. It can certainly be life-destroying if you smoke to get it.
Meanwhile, The stock prospects for the traditional big tobacco companies are going up.
Guess what it does to their value after getting an entire generation hooked on vaping nicotine for a decade, then for a brief time remove all flavors but the ones you can find in traditional cigarettes, then once people switch to tobacco and menthol only, remove e-cigarettes entirely. The only option is traditional cigarettes or not smoking at that point.
If it was easy to quit, we would’ve never had a need to create e-cigarettes to begin with.
The FDA really wants flavored nicotine vapes banned, like flavored tobacco was banned ten years ago. I think the tainted THC vapes are being used as a convenient excuse to do so.
I think vaping is a genuine improvement, provided that the law treats it like it does tobacco, i.e. no advertising, age restrictions, etc. This is an anecdote, but in countries where those restrictions are in place, just about every vaper seems to be an ex-smoker, and nobody thinks vaping is cool or attractive.
Good luck keeping people from using them anywhere. They don't smell, so non-smokers aren't going to complain (I've been using e-cigs at work for two years and never received any complaints, in fact one person who sits five feet from me wasn't aware that I did it). The only people who've ever asked me to stop using them in restaurants and bars are staff (and only two instances in two years of regularly going out with e-cigs), and they're only doing it because they're afraid of getting into trouble with whatever regulators might crack down on them.
Electronic cigarettes should be left the hell alone. I've never seen a more successful smoking cessation tool. Trying to heavy-handedly 'regulate' them so they aren't as easy or affordable to use will only ensure that people keep smoking regular cigarettes. Of course, the more paranoid side of my brain reminds me that a lot of tax revenue comes from old fashioned cigarette sales, and perhaps governments will want to protect those revenues.
Utter rubbish. Are flavoured boxes of chocolates and flavoured coffee syrups targeting highschoolers too just because they're flavoured?
Every vaper and ex-vaper I know or have ever met has used flavoured ecigs, including myself while I was quitting. A whiff of the vapour as they pass is enough to establish if they're using a fruity flavour etc. As I'm in my mid 50s and my friends are mostly 30s-60s I think it's safe to say we're not highschoolers.
The one and only time I tried a tobacco flavoured ecig I almost vomited it was so terrible. I think it's a flavour everyone tries as they switch. Tries just the once mostly - they are utterly unlike any cigarette.
I've heard people say the opposite i.e. that e-cigarettes make it too easy for people to take up smoking especially the flavoured tobacco which was also banned here. Although such speculation is just paranoid ranting without proof.
One other important thing to note is this: vaping was introduced as a way to quit smoking cigarettes, but now, as backed by numerous studies, we see that, not only just a very small percentage of smokers leave cigarettes completely and opt for vaping, but also, a lot of people (especially kids and teenagers) that would have never smoked cigarettes in their entire life, are introduced to the habit and gesture of smoking by vaping. This means that vaping is doing the opposite of what it was advertised to do, it is a road that leads towards, and not away from, cigarettes.
Why do you think there are some many flavors to decide between when vaping? Strawberry, chocolate etc. are just the basic ones to pick from.They are tasty and colorful. They are targeted towards kids. The tobacco industry found a new way to advertise itself and to enter the homes of innocent people. Imagine this: a 12 year old has been taught that cigarettes are bad. He decides he will never smoke one. One day, he passes by a vaping shop with his edgy friends and they decide to buy a nicotine-free juice with some brand new vapers. It tastes good and you can do all kinds of fat clouds with it. Wow! Plus, it's not cigarettes so there's nothing to worry about. After a few months the nicotine-free juice is not edgy enough for these young teenagers, so they decided to buy the one with a small percentage of nicotine. Now they can prove how badass they are. During this period of time they acquired not only the habit to go in and out a vaping shop, but most importantly the gesture of sucking a stick and inhale the fumes from it. They are psychologically dependent on it. But the nicotine-filled juice is not edgy anymore, so what's next? Cigarette of course! In this way innocent kids that would have never picked up a cigarette start smoking, thanks to vaping. It's a sneaky move the Tobacco industry studied and they fooled all of us.
My personal experience: I smoked for 3 years and quit 1 year ago. While first trying to quit, I used vaping as a mean to succeed. No need to say, not only I started vaping, but I kept smoking MORE cigarettes than ever before. This is just my personal experience of course, but it shows a little the uselessness and damage of vaping.
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