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Thanks. I can't read Chinese, is it the 5<something>10<something> at the start? That would make sense.

I very much doubt it's DeepFaked. Why bother? If the CCP were holding Ma and wanted him to make a generic video like that for putting up appearances I'm sure they have ways to make him do that. I suspect the OP is correct and it's simply that the author of the article doesn't know how to search Chinese social media.


or > Recently I've worked off-list a bit with Jia Tan on XZ Utils and perhaps he will have a bigger role in the future, we'll see.

Is actually Jia Tan has him tied up in a basement and is posing as him. State actors can do that kind of thing.


The most recent and audacious version of this is Gladys Liu.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladys_Liu

https://amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/gladys-liu-s-beijing...

I’m sure the former member of a Chinese propaganda group is not upto anything suspect.


This is an interesting take. I never considered the fear of defection that an actor like China might have.

That's an odd way of saying Chinese state actor.

Summary: guy tried to team up with his Chinese internet celebrity friend to also become an internet celebrity in China, but the Chinese gov ended up blocking him because he was foreign. It was a very long article for that point to be made, and some of it sounded not plausible.

Whatever you do, don't ever compare President Xi Jingping to Winnie the Pooh: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-08/winnie-the-pooh-film-c...

Don't even think about it.

There's definitely an uptick of Chinese gov't influence operations on Reddit, HN might be a bit under the radar but just in case...

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2018/62187...

If you're a connected young prince w/ a cushy party/govt job in China you're ballin' and life is goooood.

But if you're Joe-Shmoe you're kinda screwed, like with a most nightmare regimes it's the worker bees who get hit worst.



> It’s easy to make mistakes. One article about Peng Liyuan, China’s first lady, mistakenly used the photo of a famous singer rumored to be linked to another leader. It was caught by someone else before it went out, Mr. Yang said.

I’m betting this is the lameizi (spicy girl) singer Song Zuying who was rumored to be Jiang’s mistress. She is in the process of being purged as Xi is doing to many of Jiang’s supporters ATM. Xi’s wife is also a patriotic song singer from the same era, it makes sense young people might get confused.


It’s not a contradiction, there is political cancellation which has happened to celebrities in China. Look up Zhao Wei. This is the type of thing GP refers to.

https://www.newsweek.com/who-zhao-wei-mystery-surrounds-chin...

In China any friendliness towards Japan can lead to being “cancelled” but the way it happens isn’t through a local protest.


> Why would he be ousted?

> It's always entertaining to read the FUD stories about China.

Can't tell if you're deliberately being disingenuous or if you just don't know, but here are some statistics straight from the propaganda arm of the Chinese Communist Party:

> "Since 2003, 72 billionaires in the Chinese mainland have died an unnatural death (...) Among the 72 billionaires, 15 were murdered, 17 committed suicide, seven died from accidents, 14 were executed according to the law and 19 died from diseases." - http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-07/22/content_129594...

Everyone who achieves a certain level of influence at some point submits to the CCP in China. It doesn't matter if it's bloggers, vloggers, actors, billionaries, or some other type of influencer. If you don't actively cheerlead and support the corruption of the current CCP faction in power, you lose your privileges, your audience, and - if you're powerful enough - your life.


FWIW paragraphs 4-6 are those denials and Xinhua has just deleted the article with the photos of people (one with a non-Han name) traveling to to Lens: http://www.xj.xinhuanet.com/2020-02/24/c_1125615994.htm


Here's Richard Gere in 1993 directly addressing Deng Xiaoping from the podium: https://youtu.be/mh8cAlNGQxI

Here's Marlon Brando sending a (fake) Native American to accept his award for Godfather in 1973: https://youtu.be/2QUacU0I4yU?t=38s


Related:

Baidu PR chief who sparked PR nightmare over workplace culture is out

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/tech/china-qu-jing-baidu-pr-b...

(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40312094)

Baidu's PR head has a PR problem after workaholic social media posts

https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/09/baidu_pr_chief/

(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40309310)


Didn't he provide classified documents to the South China Morning Post? Certainly a clever way to create plausible deniability, but anyone with Google would be able to see how closely related that paper is to Beijing[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post#Alleg...


I don't know why I have to say this but this doesn't apply to everyone in China:

- he says nice things about his friends and coworkers

- people line up

- there is social media outrage in China when events (as he describes) happens


It’s worth pointing out that it was dangerous for him to highlight the bad parts of China while he was still living there. In one of his videos he mentioned that during his time in China he had recorded a lot of footage but he was understandably afraid to publish it (I believe he partly addresses it in this video unless my memory is failing me: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc).

I personally like this video a lot: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ImmRjT74i-c. It talks a bit about why the rest of the world had no masks or other medical equipment when the Wuhan Virus spread outside of China.

There’s also another foreigner who was semi-famous in China that’s now making funny videos about China (e.g. https://youtube.com/watch?v=s8PYZQd3Dvo).


More context on Peng Shuai for those interested:

Searches about this behind China’s firewall show no results due to censorship (not something you would expect if there wasn’t coercion going on)

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinese-tennis-player-pe...

Outlining her conveniently timed retirement, and absence and disappearance from social media.

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/olympics-pengshuai-02...

Easily found context, ignored by kkzz99, who instead dug up PCR state media interview, shows clearly the kkzz99 account is state sponsored.

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