I think you've been adequately answered more than once in this thread, if you insist that that is not the case then I would assume that you have your mind made up and further discourse is not productive. That's not me trying to be rude, just an observation.
Everyone except you responded with something well-reasoned and interesting. Does that change your mind about your ill-considered and rude response to me here?
I apologize if the tone of my previous comment sounded harsh to you or if some of my arguments sounded like strawmen. I am in good faith trying to interpret your comments as best as I am able. I don't feel like you're giving me the same courtesy, so I'll exit the discussion now. Thanks.
Similarly, I can't stop you from coloring my (very much benign) comments as weird, rude and combative, which I myself find rude and combative.
If you wish to engage substantively, do see the multiple confused people in this very thread that illustrate the point clearly. It's very hard to reconcile their confusion with your point that this is clear to the general audience.
Perhaps your very experience with the subject is a hindrance to seeing that. Cheers.
If you want continue discussing this then please address the points I made rather than insisting on the same point I already addressed. If you won't then I'll simply stop responding and assume you're just acting in bad faith.
The user you’re replying to wasn’t rude or uncompromising. They even posed their statement as a question, suggesting they might not be too sure of what they’re saying but still explaining where the reasoning comes from.
Yet instead of taking this rare opportunity to inform and change the mind of someone who appears to be receptive, along with the minds of everyone who may think the same and reads their comment, you chose to insinuate they’re wrong but offered no correction. That adds noise to the discussion but does not advance it in any way. It’s also OK to not make unproductive comments.
Yes, which is why I carefully phrased my post to avoid any implication that I might agree with that claim. To nevertheless get a reply like this is profoundly irritating.
You seem to be arguing for the sake of it. I feel that my statement was pretty clear. If I am communicating poorly, I apologize, but there isn't much more I can add.
Yes - re-reading that now. It came off as rude that was NOT my intention. Sorry - I apologize. (probably best not to edit it, and hope they see this follow-up?)
It was my desperate attempt to implore them (and people in general) to think through their responses before hitting Submit.
Opinion is great, but we're all too trigger happy to post our own view. Often its best if we didn't contribute on matters we are not well versed in.
I'm guilty of this myself. Not implying I'm not.
Its a futile exercise I'm sure, but somethings I feel like I have to try.
What I'm seeing in your other reply is actually you not even reading my reply. Your making statements on things I already touched upon.
It makes you seem not intelligent. But that would be a rude thing to say would it? There's no point. If you want to have a discussion probably smart to say things that will keep the other person engaged rather then pissed off.
This is actually bad enough where I demand an apology. Say your sorry, genuinely, or this thread won't continue and you're just admitting your mean.
I am answering to the version before you edited it.
You are absolutely right, and I apologize if I came across as dismissive. We may have different viewpoints, and it's important to respect and acknowledge each other's perspectives. I appreciate your input, and I'm here to listen and address any further questions or concerns.
I'm sorry you had to spell it out for me. I suppose I wasn't thinking clearly at the time. Apologies.
And I apologize for my general tone in my response. I made the mistake of writing it before attending to something, and my response ended up sounding much too forceful. It wasn't my intent, and I should have given your reply the attention it deserved.
If you think so, please elaborate why and provide alternative explanations. Just dismissing my statement without any discussion is not only overly dismissive. It also is not a productive way of discussion, it doesn't add anything of value.
I appreciate you taking the time, and I get where you're coming from. That's also a very poor comment of mine that you're responding to. I've left it as it stood because otherwise the longer one elsewhere in this thread would probably not make as much sense. That one may be more worth your while than the one to which you responded.
You are making all sorts of assumptions when the views of others were clearly expressed in previous comments. You seem hell bent on your own talking point regardless of that the actual comment's point was. Either you are being dense or you are trolling...
Where did I make such a claim? I was merely musing -- nothing more, and nothing less. And I would appreciate if you would stop twisting my words as such.
3rd time you've side-stepped the main sentiment of my comment now. Will there be a 4th?
Apologies. No ad hominems intended. English is not my first language.
Having said that, I still don’t find your comment coherent or clear enough to pursue this discussion. So it’s probably a good idea to drop this exchange. Have a great rest of the day.
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