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I wouldn’t let a pedophile babysit my children (and I actually do know people who served time for pedophile-related crimes). But the question is “would you let a pedophile do any job?” I don’t see why I should object to a pedophile working as an accountant, stock broker, software tester, or juror.


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Would you let a pedophile who served his time babysit your children?

"Would you hire a convicted pedophile to work at a day care center?"

No, but I would consider contracting them to give advice on a child protection policy for a day care.


Really weird example. So a daycare should hire a pedophile if he wasn't ever convicted?

Depends...

This would be a great job for an actual pedophile.


You're not making a good argument for your position. In this context, being a pedophile (distinct from the act of abusing children) is closer to being a racist (distinct from the act of abusing people of a different race) than to being a bank robber.

Also, why construction and retail? A remote-work programming position seems less dangerous for the public, even following your reasoning.


I'm not sure you're arguing in good faith. I suggested no such thing about pedophilia, and numerous articles about research into the cycle of poverty and crime are trivial to look up (e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7234816/).

Should you hire someone with a criminal record? Hiring decisions are extremely contextual. Your examples are nowhere near specific enough to address without generalization. But consider that people who have committed white-collar crimes sometimes are hired for their security expertise (e.g. Kevin Mitnick), and I see nothing wrong with that.


this does not make someone a pedophile. It probably makes them morally corrupt, but not a pedophile.

Well, be more specific. "Associated with pedophilia" ranges all the way to a child rape conviction.

Do I think someone who once hired a pedophile should be treated like one? No. Does the law or legal ethics think so? No.


It's pretty sad that pedophilia is something that has to be rationalized. It's a sexual preference you're stuck with.

Obviously we don't want these people actually fucking kids, but they're heavily persecuted and risk years in prison just for getting off to some photos they got from the internet. It's not all that different from how some countries treat gay people.

I'm not a pedophile, but I hang around a lot of privacy-enhancing projects and have met many open pedos. One of them recently linked me this https://blog.gnu.moe/misc/pedo.html


I'm actually unsure, is calling someone (let's say a private citizen rather an a celebrity) a pedophile based on flimsy reasoning illegal in the US?

Well, consider what job a creep who loves to invade children's privacy would have.

Well, first and foremost, if I ran a service, I would not want to help either terrorists or pedophiles. I would be very unhappy if I was doing that.

Secondly, if you do provide service to terrorists or pedophiles, and take no steps to stop doing so, law enforcement and society in general is not going to be very happy with you.


This is a disgusting thought, but hear me out. Perhaps this might actually be a good job to give to a paedophile. Their classifications would probably have a superior false positive rate than someone who is disgusted by the images, and it would all but eliminate any concern about an employee suffering psychological trauma.

A 'lot' of these jobs have contact with children and the news organisations have done enough damage to societies perception that a man wanting to work with children is probably a pedophile to wreck that career path.

'Something must be wrong with you'


I'm trying to figure out what the hell is going on inside your head. Child predators that get released from prison can and do have restrictions on employment placed on them. They're not allowed to work with kids. Are you unaware of that or something? Do you actually oppose that? I can't figure out your angle here, but you're distressing me.

A pedophile is not by definition a child molester/abuser. I wish they would get help and be redeemed from their abnormal urges.

> A pedophile is a very specific thing. It's someone who is sexually aroused by underage children.

Specifically, it's someone aroused by prepubescent children.

> More specifically, it's someone who acts on those desires.

No, someone who acts on those desires (for underage children, whether a pedophile in the strict sense or not) is a child sex abuser. A pedophile is a pedophile whether or not they act on their desires, and it's possible to act on sex desires that make you a child sex abuser without being a pedophile at all.

> If someone goes to lunch with a pedophile, knowing they're a pedophile, to try and get $60,000, they're morally corrupt.

I disagree, whether using either the actual definition or yours of “pedophile”.

Now, if you know that he's a child sex trafficker (and thus that in some way the funds would originated from the sexual abuse of children), then, sure, there's a good argument.


I'm not ostracizing him, just pointing out that exposing yourself to a child is a very serious crime. Found the articles about OP and it pretty well explains why he's having a hard time finding a job. IMO he should just start his own company, because most software companies aren't going to hire a sex offender.

>yeah if you’re on the non-pedophile side

You're assuming there's a non-pedophile side?

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