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Last time I checked, the only option to login was using a phone number. And at least the web client only has the phone number as login. I do not want to give them my phone number. Full stop. They can tie my account to my email, to my domain, to a chosen username, whatever. But if your service requires a phone number to use it, it’s not something I will use.


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It's not smart if you can't given them your phone number because they started requiring your phone number to login before you can give them your phone number.

> Granted, you need an account to use a third party client

But that's basically what the OP wants to avoid. It's not a question of creating an account, but giving them your phone number.


they have a kind of dark login pattern where it looks like you have to use phone number but you don't have to at least in my country.

I have been unable to sign up for an account without a phone number. That is what keeps me off the platform.

Lucky you already have your account. These days you can sign up for one without a phone number, but then you flat-out can't sign in without giving one.

No, I'm still required to provide a phone number. This has something to do with my browser/system/ip fingerprint, because a friend of mine can make a google account for me from his googled phone on chrome just fine, yet when I try to log into it from my degoogled phone on firefox from my place, it asks for a phone number.

It's about as awful as discord, who also locks account creation behind providing a phone number when an account is created from my residential IP. It almost feels like I've tripped some prevention mechanisms that all these companies are sharing and I have no idea of how to get my "goodness" score back up.


not just that, they're also incredibly hostile to users trying to retain privacy.

they're requiring phone number validation just after registration or you run the risk that they suddenly lock your account, demanding a phone number for "abuse prevention". depending on ip reputation and possibly other factors it may be impossible to use it in the first place without providing a phone number.


> doesn't tie your account to your phone#?

It's not really an option these days, most services _require_ a phone number and for some reason that is completely unknown to me, a phone number is considered as secure as a password or email address - despite sim jacking and generally losing access to your number when changing contract being very known problems.

You could use a fake phone number service, but ultimately somebody else could just use this to login to your account. You also can't guarantee you are able to use that phone number again when you need to get back in.

The only real option is to not use the service at all, which is easier said than done when your family, friends and even employers use (and require you to use) the service.


It does require a phone number. Alternative clients are banned by terms of service which means you can only choose the platforms they support which means iOS or Android.

If you keep using the account at one point you'll be required to add your phone number or you won't be able to login.

They’ve required a phone number every time I’ve tried to sign up. They don’t have it in the sign up flow - they wait until you try to sign in and won’t let you proceed without it.

I can't sign into one of my accounts without providing a phone number "for security reasons". Account is alive so far and useful (email forwarding works).

I still don't understand. Occasionally you need a phone number to sign up, but I've never needed a phone number to log in to something unless 2FA get triggered. But in any case, nobody else knows what phone number I used to create an account.

Anyone else ask themselves why the signup process requires a phone number, despite signing up with a third party auth provider that already had my phone number? There is no reason to collect this data.

Why in heaven does OpenAI want my phone number to be able to log in? And why it doesn’t say anything about this requirement before I create an account? If I knew about it I wouldn’t even bother creating the account at all. It’s absolutely inappropriate.

This is exactly why I never got further than their login/signup.

Being forced to give them one of my 'most unique identifiers' (my phone number) was an absolute 'no'.


YMMV, but I'm absolutely not giving my phone number to a service of dubious providence because my employer told me to. I'd suggest federated login ASAP.

I don't think that's an option anymore, the last time I tried to create an account it required a phone number that it could verify. It didn't even allow me to use an office phone number, only a real mobile number.
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