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Didn't they ban the use of Huawei in all telecommunication infrastructure a few months ago?

Huawei was on the danger list for years before the Bloomberg article. This is unrelated.

Agreed, I would say Huawei was "gatekeeped" (not a word I know but banned without recourse)

Sounds very similar. Didn't Huawei stuff get banned as well?

Yes, Huawei has never done anything untoward. /s

There's a whole section[0], and another entire page[1] on Wikipedia detailing accusations against them. China, too, has quite the detailed presence[2]. So let's not pretend they're trustworthy.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei#Controversies

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Huawei

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_intelligence_activity_...


Will they be banned just like Huawei?

This statement is completely wrong.

Huawei is a legitimate threat from a country that doesn't have the same checks and balances as other countries e.g. free media, robust judiciary, democracy.

And it's not like network providers are specifically trying to secure their platform against Huawei. It's against anyone.


Huawei is a giant. In phones they had bigger marketshare than Apple. Their chips are nearly on par with Qualcomm. It is naive to believe they are banned for security concerns.

Huawei is security risk because their buggy software and slow of response to security issues, not malicious backdoor. They are just like everyone else, just more so.

Huawei has been under microscope for decade or more. Not just governments, but big telco's in US, EU and Asia have been looking into it. Nothing intentional has been found. At the same time their firmware is buggy as hell and they do the absolute minimum to fix them when something is found.

It's not unreasonable to ban Huawei in some areas because their systems are insecure but blanket ban is too much.


It would be very surprising if Huawei was significantly more threatening than any of it's competitors, if you consider being compromised by any government to be a threat.

The US government has been murmuring about security risks of Huawei gear for years now, mostly without citing any particular technical threats. The report of the open telnet server was the first thing a lot of us have seen which gives technical substance to those complaints, but it almost certainly didn't motivate the policy response -- which was, in any case, a continuation of pressure tactics that were already underway, domestically and overseas. For example, Michael Hayden, former head of the CIA and NSA, was publicly calling them a security risk as far back as 2013.

Timeline: https://www.computerworlduk.com/security/huawei-controversie...


I didn't know they were owned by a Japanese company. Which makes this even weirder because Japan is really anti-Huawei. They were the first to ban Huawei.

Huawei, despite the assurances of the company in contract and in public forums continues to be dogged by claims of spying.

They are currently banned in:

- Australia

- Brazil

- Canada

- Denmark

- Finland

- Greenland - excluded on contract

- India - excluded from 5g trials

- Italy - has prevented a number of telcos from purchasing

equipment - Japan

- Israel - not invited to tender

- Netherlands - dropped from 5g core network

- Norway - excluded based on contract

- Poland

- Spain - replacing Huawei core with Ericsson

- Sweden

- UK - currently removing gear

- United States

- European Union considering defacto ban

- France limitation on equipment amount to defacto ban

- German limits on equipment and capabilities

In addition to allegations of slying from The Netherlands, UK, Australia, US,


The Chinese government can order Huawei to do basically whatever it wants, and the former has so far shown no qualms about doing as much espionage, corporate or otherwise, as it can get away with. Infrastructure is one threat, smartphones are another.

But is the assault not called for? Has huawei not don't weird/shady/illegal things? I'm not questioning your statement on AT&T, I happen to agree, but is the topic at hand not the actions and history of Huawei?

I believe Huawei sued and lost.

Isn't this about the earlier Huawei proposal that got shot down somewhat harshly?

The concern is legit. That's why Huawei is the most audited telecom equipment provider. Also that's why U.S. has hacked into Huawei years ago. I am pretty sure if there is anything, it would have surfaced years ago. In a way, the whole thing has made Huawei more reliable than other provider if you object monitoring from U.S. government.

It had to do with implied connection between huawei and State of China. Almost like it was state controlled.
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