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We've been trying that for a good chunk of the last decade. That's why interest rates have gone to near zero, and in some places negative. It's not working so well.


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Near zero interest is completely unsustainable and clear evidence of problems in the market. They have lead to unimaginable asset bubbles that we still haven't seen pop.

There's been some research [0] that the last decade has seen the lowest interest rates in 5,000 years.

We have been continually increasing solving market problems by just creating more credit but eventually you have to pay your debts.

We're headed for trouble potentially bigger than anything we've seen before if we continue on this path.

0. https://www.wiley.com/en-us/A+History+of+Interest+Rates%2C+4...


I don't know what you mean by keeping rates low. Interest rates have been going down for a long time. 0% is just another boring destination as 1% was.

So weird to think that near-zero interest rates are the best you can do for the next 10 years. I'm pretty sure everyone way saying "lock in this low interest rate before they go up again!"

That strategy works with quantitate easing in a near zero interest rate era with cheap money being thrown around.

Not this time I'm afraid as that ship has sailed.


The real interest rate was zero or slightly negative for a long time. It only turned positive in the last two years.

It might help to think of it as going beyond zero interest rates to the point of intentionally punishing traditional savings to try to force consumer spending (if you hold onto it, we'll devalue it), entice borrowing (we'll essentially pay you to buy a house [1]), etc. There are various approaches to pushing rates below zero. Japan and the ECB have done a lot of experimenting, the US will probably take some notes from them when it comes time to push US rates below zero persistently.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-upside-down-world-of-negati...


In fact, the problem has been that rates aren't low enough, they are united by the zero lower bound. The natural interest rate would be several points in the negative.

Problem is interest rates are still very close to the 0 bounds. Even a few years ago interest rates could simply not go any/much lower. Since we had the same problem when interest rates could not go any lower, I don't think its interest rates themselves thats the problem. Instead the problem is a global excess of savings vs. demand resulting in a situation where interest rates decrease and there's more money then there are things to invest in.

Negative interest rates have been a fantastic economic phenomena of the last decade. https://www.ft.com/content/312f0a8c-0094-11e6-ac98-3c15a1aa2...

That's because interest rates having generally trended down from the mid-teens to zero in the past forty years.

Unless we're willing to go negative, that cycle is coming to an end.


This kind of sounds like people setting interest rates. I've heard that's gone well for us... Twice.

Indeed. Those "near-zero" interest rates you mentioned? They don't last. We could only lock in a 5-year rate -- the rates that come after that loom large in our awareness.

Interest rates being near zero

Lower interest rates to 0% and faking it will come roaring back.

> Interest rates had been rock bottom since the 2008 crisis

Exactly. So we had ~14ish years of effectively 0% interest rates. That's never happened before in history. Now that we're going back to normal rates, we're discovering that some things we did when rates were 0 aren't actually feasible anymore.

That's what ZIRP is. It's a decade and a half of 0% coming to an end.


Negative interest rates would be a very good thing right now.

Or those pesky 0% interest rates we've had for 7 years.

Rates have been near zero forever. They were still extremely low. The fed is trying to get back to something resembling normal.

It's low interest rates that weren't sustainable. And that's becoming apparent
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