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What are the two other companies? Lockheed and Tupolev?


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That’s not true. Lockheed makes cargo planes and helicopters.

Note that Boeing and Lockheed own ULA jointly, they're not a part of ULA.

ELI5? are you saying lockheed took this from someone else?

Yeah, but not Lockheed

Which company/aircraft?

Serious question: Is it remotely possible for Lockheed Martin to start making passenger jets? They’ve won every 5th gen fighter and bomber contract over Boeing.

ULA is a JV between Lockheed and Boeing though?

Yep I know they used to as Lockheed. I have no idea if they’ve thought about it since then.

ULA is a Lockheed and Boeing joint venture, and the Orion capsule itself is a straight up Lockheed built ship.

Now, the fuckups seem to be mainly on Boeing's side of the fence, but it's incorrect to say that Lockheed isn't involved.


Bit embarrassing isn't it, that a joint venture between two of the US's (and world's) largest aeronautics and defence companies doesn't have their own engines – and has to rely on the Russians?

The article specifically mentions that Lockheed is handling the integration.

Pretty sure they supply to Lockheed as well. Wonder how they'd react to such a move.

Isn't ULA a consortium of Boeing and Lockheed Martin? I believe buying those would be beyond even Bezos means...

The government forced them to form ULA after Boeing was found to have thousands of pages of Lockheed proprietary info. Boeing had been stripped of a $1B launch award and was barred from bidding pending the investigation.

Rather than have Boeing endure the criminal and civil liability a joint venture with advantageous terms to Lockheed was decided on.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-probe-intensifi...


Yeah maybe it was Boeing - are they associated with ULA or something?

Wait Lockheed Martin is working with them? I had the impression the project was not being taken seriously by professionals. Did that change lately?

ULA may be new but Boeing and Lockheed Martin are not.

McDonnell Douglas or maybe Hughes Aerospace?

Curtiss-Wright is a legit defense aerospace company though…
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