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sure still the nuclear arsenal is in the hand of an unstable and probably mentally hill individual


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This is not a serious argument. By the same token, putin or comrade xi can do the same if they feel suicidal.

There are controls in place (or at least on the paper) that prevent a crazy president from running amok with the nukes.


He's not dumb enough to start dropping nukes unless he recently suffered brain damage, which is not off the table considering his current actions.

One witness noted that if people thougt he was simply insane he should not be the one to turn the key for the nuclear missile. Or worse, if his sanity was ever so slightly in doubt he should be removed - according to himself.

Fortunately there is still a chain of command. He can't just press a button and launch nukes.

Odds are everyone's nukes are poorly secured, not just the U.S.. So even if we manage to improve security, it only takes another side to lose their nukes to a not-so-cool-headed actor..

The problem with that argument is that at some point acting insane to keep up pretenses and actually being insane becomes indistinguishable and you end up with the situation that only a young Russian nuclear officer disobeying orders is saving the world from nuclear Armageddon [1]

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov


what if the state actor who did this has nuclear weapons?

May result in a nuclear war, if he's sufficiently crazy

"he couldn't keep his short, fat fingers from a big red button he couldn't read the label for."

I am pretty sure neither Trump nor any previous presidents were never given that power. That briefcase is just a necessary prop used to build his image of most powerful human being around, but either it doesn't work or, if it does, before the red button pressed signal turns into an attack order it goes through some deep technical error checking and human approval list. That is the same reason there are two pilots on airliners (especially after Germanwings flight 9525): humans can go nuts, even best trained ones although rarely, but if they do with a nuclear button at hand the outcome can be catastrophic. That's more likely the risk in much smaller countries when they develop the technology necessary to build atomic weaponry, which - though I'm against them on principle - is probably the reason why a very small number of nukes can be still useful as a deterrent. But on a world size scale, today IMO atomic war should be the least of our concerns.


I had not considered that.

It seems like "dude has nukes and feels backed into a wall" is just really shite. You either give him what he wants, or you risk nuclear war.


Who is ever going to invade a company with nuclear weapons and apparently no qualms about using them?

It sounds like he is stuck in the past and fighting battles in the past and nightmares in his head that don't even exist.


No idea, but here's a plausible train of thought:

"Somebody" just proved himself willing and able to hurl nukes at large population centers for no rational reason. Do we cower, pray and hope his psychosis won't target us next, or do we try to take him out as fast as we can?


Interesting. That's strikingly similar to the idea, held by many in the US, that the new nuclear weapons should be utilized against Soviet ASAP, before they had the chance to build their own. Even Bertrand Russell advocated for this.

That someone I hold as a model in so much could display such levels of collective madness is one of those things I use to remind myself, of how fickle we are.


A person like this is actually unsuitable, even if he was smart. How likely you are to steal nuclear material is a factor there.

In other words, a madman capable of using Nuclear weapons, will be gentle, sensitive and follow etiquette with his Nuclear actions?

It is, I was alluding to his intuitive understanding of the threats to his position of power. If he threatens to nuke everyone and that is an achievable and possibly believable threat, he may gain a small seat at the global negotiating table

A madman that nobody can predict with the authority to launch nukes is hardly "weak" by any means. How the hell do you know he won't actually do it? Congress constantly had to attempt to reign him in.

A man who didn't want a perceived enemy to get nuclear capabilities. Wow, what a lunatic.

What if that person has a nuclear weapon? Still best to ignore them?
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