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What is the price point? Exactly how much cheaper is Huawei vs. Nokia/Ericsson?

Some rumors say that Huawei has 4,000 software engineers that they can throw at a problem, like their current goal to replace Google services.

If an average software engineer in China makes $10,000 USD, vs. an average software engineer at Google making $160,000 USD. Then Huawei will spend $40 million USD, vs. Google spending $640 million USD.

That’s a pretty significant difference. Huawei’s operating cost is 6% of Google’s.

Huawei can afford to throw a lot of human brain power at solving an engineering problem. And especially when a lot of Chinese companies are operating in start-up mode and working 60+ hours a week.



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Huawei is private and did about the same revenue as Google last year.

This is not universally true of all of Huawei's products relative to competition in terms of cost. Huawei's enterprise storage products, for instance, are significantly more expensive than alternatives from companies in the West.

What was Huawei paying Google for? If anything, Google was paying Huawei to be the default search engine on its phones outside of China.

I don't get it. Huawei reportedly stole the technology from Samsung and still their phone is more expensive.

So Huawei is coping US companies and still creating better equipment than those it copy from? Ask anyone (well maybe anyone outside the US) in the tele industry and they'll tell you that Huawei is cheaper, better and also faster to fix a problem in both software and hardware. At least I have never heard anyone state otherwise outside of anon people on a forum. So, ask a real person and see.

I do not know why you are down voted... I have seen Huawei from the inside and the number of devs and first grade researchers is staggering.

The researchers get payed very well, but what (to those I met) was even more important: they get all the assistance they want, plus 1. As one of them told me "I hate doing things twice. I now do not have to. I think of something, try to get it to work and I am done. The grinding is done for me." A truly very nice environment to do research in, with a boatload of resources at their fingertips.

Just check the number of patents Huawei [0] holds.

[0] https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1194023.shtml


Huawei is a company of over 200.000 people including some of the best engineers in China; the idea that Huawei's success in 5G stems from just one guy is silly.

Huawei invested billions while its competitors focused on cost.


The thing is this isn't cheap Chinese gadgets. The main thing I see mentioned is that Huawei is years ahead. Being cheaper is just icing on the cake. Huawei use a lot more on R&D than the competition.

My understanding is that the Huawei's hardware is just way cheaper.

Huawei is apparently just far and way cheaper.

One key differentiator in my opinion between Google and Huawei is how they treat their own employees and partners.

I've worked closely with Huawei on a number of projects and they really work their employees to the bone, with terrible code, non-existent procedures, and a stressfull existence for everyone involved as a result.


huh? Huawei pays very well, and there is a reason it is paid very well. You don't get that kind of money for being a baby.

Huawei is bigger than Nokia and Ericsson combined in telecom equipment market?

That does not sound right.

Do you have some numbers to back that up?


Huawei’s tech is better per $ because they skipped years of R&D that they didn’t have to price in. I remember when their products included Cisco manuals.

An intriguing thing about Huawei is that even after being cut off from Google, cut off from TSMC, cut off from any 5G phone SOC from any supplier, they still keep on developing and marketing towards the European consumer market.

This must be extremely expensive, and there is no way they are making money here, at least for the foreseeable future.


Does this extend to devices made by Huawei? Wasn't Google using them as a manufacturer for their phones?

> Huawei has employed an army of reportedly 80.000 developers

Any source on that?


There is a rumor here that Huawei approaches key personal of competitors and offers to match the salary + 12000usd/month (which alone is probably more than 90% make)

Huanwei is pretty expensive too.
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