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>that way it is possible to determine the unique amount of devices inside a house.

There are exceptions I guess. Imagine 8000 households in which couples live. Both partners own the same MacBook model. In 1/8000 cases Google would think there is only one person.



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My question was about using that many devices. And I'll quote myself here fully:

> Out of curiosity, how do you even manage to use more than five devices for private use at once? Even just owning that many is unlikely.

One sentence is a question, the other is a statement which I consider to be true (and explains how I arrived at that question).

Also it was quite clear from my argument that I was talking about people singular, and you responded pretending I was saying that an entire family owning more than 5 devices is unlikely.

I can't imagine why you'd be arguing like this, I just hope it's not on purpose.


One person on one device in the household using it doesn't mean all other devices have it.

my house of 2 people has probably 15-20 active devices then. I bet they count airpods as well.

People may have 1+ device per person and not share them.

because users generally own more than one device.

I imagine "13 devices" does not necessarily mean exclusive ownership, either. I have a TV, but it's the same TV that everyone in my household has, so a straightforward multiplication of "people * devices" doesn't totally work.

Worse, each person can have more than one device.

But with that you count devices, not people.

> If every human being tends to have a computer and a phone that means there's at least 20X more devices than IPs.

You know, that used to be only "if every human being tends to have a computer", since phones didn't have an IP address. Now it's "a computer and a phone". A few years down the line, you'll have "a computer and a phone and a watch", then "a computer and a phone and a watch and a standalone VR headset", and so on.


That phrase was not meant to be condescending. What I mean is that, while I can see why you'd want to share apps with your children, your adult spouse is their own person and can buy their own stuff. The article claims a 10-device limit may be too low for families, and I'm pointing out that two people remain two people even if they marry.

I know several ppl who need to use several devices because of that limit.

that's how it will be, because there will only ever be at most one person using one of these things. The others are on their phones or macbooks.

It's easy enough to get to 5 devices, for a family. Especially given the current remote work/schooling situation. Figure 1 laptop or tablet per person (adults and kids) and 1 phone per adult. If you have two kids, that's 6 devices right there. And that's assuming none of the kids are old enough to have phones, none of the adults have separate work/personal laptops, no separate work phones for the adults, etc.

Unless the 'someone else' is a multisig consisting of a mixture of friends & relatives, instutitions and hardware devices.

Hardly, there would be plenty of couples out there who don't directly need iOS devices for their job that have just as much if not more.

After you take out 2 phones you would have anyway, 2 laptops and maybe an iPad and an Apple TV there isn't that much more.


Yeah. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about except for consumers who have a few devices in their homes.

I was editing as you replied. Bit more thoughts on it there. But there's a potentially big concern to knowing who owns a multithousand dollar device and just pretending you don't know who owns it when you do.

23 devices that I can remember - 3 laptops, 2 computers, 1 amazon fire tv, 4 ipads, 2 iphones, 2 amazon hdx tablets, 5 x sonos, 1 WII, 1 networked printer, 2 NAS

Five years ago that would have been 3 laptops, 1 computer, 1 WII and little else.

Next five years will see many more devices but not in the same class of product as any of the devices currently in the home.


Then why did you buy 3 Google home devices?
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